View Full Version : Some Guys I Miss

02-13-2006, 03:52 AM
Willie "the Sandman" Edwards. His combination of brutal punching power (including one-punch KO potential when he landed right) and a very iffy chin made every bout in which he was a participant exciting. When Willie was in the ring, the fight literally could end at any moment and with either boxer on the floor. I rewatched his title bout with Bobby Czyz earlier this evening, and it was a round and a half pressure cooker: the then tough Czyz was down in the first, and Edwards was left a quaking, deep-breathing mass of flesh in the second after a single Czyz right cross. I hope Willie's healthy and in high clover now.

Chris Calvin. Chris had a fair jab, a fair, left hook, a decent chin, and a right hand that could puncture the side of a battleship. His bouts usually followed a pattern of Chris taking all manner of stick in and about the face, looking on the verge of an ambulance ride, and then finding the sweet spot with that atomic right. Good fighters like Bret Summers and Forrest Winchester seemed unable to believe it when Calvin knocked them down round after round while taking severe punishment himself. Cocky, talented former street fighter Juan Arroyo was so distraught after being caught by Calvin's money punch that he struggled Judah-like in the arms of his cornermen following his knockout loss and cried loudly enough to be heard over the air, "I gotta kill that guy, I gotta kill that guy!"
But Chris was visited with that rare yet still too-frequent tragedy innate to boxing when his powerful blows landed with too much impact on brave Shaun Thomas and took his life (Thomas' last words were, "Is this the end of my career?"). Calvin was really never the same thereafter. In his next bout, Chris faced then-undefeated and hard-charging Greg Haugen. He stung Haugen early, but the finishing instinct was no longer there, and Greg came back to stop him. There were a few wins (including KOs) and more losses following that, but these only confirmed that the road led downhill after Thomas. As with Edwards, my hope is that Calvin is healthy and comfortable now.

Maybe it's selfish of me, but I also miss Buck Smith. He wasn't exceptional in any way (though when an opponent coorperated by allowing him to crank up that big hook, Buck could look like gangbusters), but I appreciated the fact that boxing was his business, and apparently his only business. Smith literally was a "Have gloves, Will travel" kind of fellow who fought dozens of times every year and gave a real effort every time I saw him. In these days of 20 bout "veterans," Buck had over a hundred and seventy (or so) wins in his road warrior career. This schedule can't be good for the human body, but it sure was a nice change for those of us who followed boxing back in the Eighties through one and two-line result posts in our daily newspapers. Buck Smith was a steady presence when boxing offered more dilettantes than hard-nosed journeymen. What can I say other than express my wish that he's enjoying the fruits of his labors alongside Calvin and Edwards and thousands of other honest performers who put so much into the sport with so little resulting fame and fortune? PeteLeo.

02-13-2006, 08:45 AM
There's a trainer / promoter called Willie Edwards, he seems to specialise in women's bouts. Maybe it's the same guy.

Buck Smith runs a gym in Oklahoma (see shawnlealos.com/writings/loud/tko.html (http://shawnlealos.com/writings/loud/tko.html)). There was some stuff on a newsgroup about him being locked up for indecent exposure, but I couldn't find confirmation of that.

02-14-2006, 04:20 AM
all the 70's heavyweights.

02-14-2006, 07:03 AM
I echo that, Pete and Greg. I also think DAILY about the fighters of Mexican heritage I watched on tv, including the Baltazars, Jaime Garza, Oscar Muniz, Adrian Arreola, Rocky Garcia, Superfly Sandoval, Mike Ayala, Juan Kid Meza, the Bejines brothers, Albert Davila, Mario Martinez, Adam Garcia, Pintor, Cuevas, the Z boys...


03-01-2006, 09:22 PM
I miss Frankie Duarte...I miss Gerry Cooney...I miss Roberto Duran terribly...I miss Micky Ward already...I miss Ray Mancini...I miss Alexis Arguello...I miss Frank "The Animal" Fletcher, James "Hard Rock" Green and Dwight Braxton...I miss Matthew Saad Muhammad...I miss Mike Rossman...I miss Edwin Rosario and Wilfredo Gomez...I miss Lupe Pintor...

I miss the 80's I guess.


03-01-2006, 09:23 PM
frankie duarte is doing well, tom. he is training fighters at the wild card gym in LA and just did an interview with rick farris and brad little. rick says he is sharp as a tack and a great interview. they did the interview in his barber shop while frankie cut brads hair. the interview was a success but they had to shave brads head at the end:lol

03-02-2006, 07:57 PM
Am I correct in thinking that Rick Farris used to post on here?

03-02-2006, 11:29 PM
Yes Rob
Rick used to post on here.

Goofy Pimple
03-03-2006, 12:02 PM
What forum does Rick Farris post on now?

I used to enjoy reading his stuff here. I guess he burned his bridges and won't be coming back anytime soon.

Tom Smario
03-03-2006, 06:02 PM
Buck Smith was a throwback to the old days when guys traveled by rail, horse, or the back of an old pickup truck. I loved that guy too. I met the guy at a fight card in New Orleans and rode with him on a long ride to the airport. He was actually kind of a comical guy I enjoyed being around. He wasnt any kind of great fighter, but he had what I considered something honorable about the way he approached his occupation with such devotion. He certainly wasnt a spoiled brat that you find so common among todays "stars". I think he would have been just as happy fighting in the back rooms of bars if the conditions and money were right. Now it seems to me boxing is hurting for more guys like Buck Smith. Boxing is hurting for blue collar stars people can relate to, instead the media feeds us costume jewelry and calls them great fighters and charge small fortunes to watch them on PPV cards where you can usually pick the winner well before the first bell rings. Yes, I miss Buck and what he stood for.

03-03-2006, 06:23 PM
Much like Buck Smith but he was a much better fighter. A real working man's fighter who was a contender for much of his career.

Not a great fighter but a very good one who always showed up in shape & ready to go.


03-03-2006, 10:31 PM
What did Rick do? Or is it best not to ask?!?

03-03-2006, 10:50 PM
Lets just say our Boss and Friend GorDoom had a full head of golden hair a while back. Due to trying to pacify Rick who was a great writer and had many friends on here including myself. He ended up with two small hairs left on his head and both of them were grey.

Being serious for what ever reason it was Rick seemed to go off in a temper on here and despite many attempts to try to cool the situation down, Rick sad to say would not respond. So you cant have one law for one person and just because its a friend of yours keep overlooking it. So in the end and i hate to say this GorDoom really had no other option then to bar him from the site.

03-04-2006, 06:39 PM
I miss Harold Brazier as well.Remember the boxing lesson he put on John Meekins?And he gave Larry Barnes a lesson too but got robbed of the decision.

04-19-2006, 10:54 AM
Marvin Hagler
Michael Spinks
Aaron Pryor
Larry Holmes
Azumah Nelson

04-19-2006, 04:01 PM
Cornelius Boza-Edwards. Did anyone else ever give so much of himself for every second he was in the ring? Not a Great boxer, surely, but he was a great fan's fighter. PeteLeo.

04-20-2006, 05:40 AM
I miss the road warriors and guys that'll sign a contract to meet anyone anytime and anywhere.

Guys like Hagler. Mike Weaver. Yaqui Lopez/etc. Those guys always have some extra losses on their dossier and I guess too many losses these days is a killer to the television powers that be.

Steve Coughlin
04-24-2006, 12:59 PM
Nice one, Pete Leo! I was just going to mention Cornelius Boza – Edwards! A man’s man if there ever was one and a class act too.

I also miss Ricardo Lopez. One of the finest champions to ever have laced ‘em up.