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kikibalt
06-15-2005, 04:59 PM
Any body remenber Art ( Golden Boy ) Aragon?, he fought Joe Miceli ,Chuck Davey, Carmen Basilio, Chico Vejar, an others

GorDoom
06-15-2005, 08:34 PM
I sure do remember Aragon one of the toughest guys to ever lace up the gloves. My old man told me that he once saw Art hit a guy with a left hook so hard he no only KO'd him he broke his ankle.

His career rcord is directly below:

Art Aragon
"The Golden Boy"

Born: November 13, 1927 Belen, NM
Height: 5-8
Professional Record: 87-18-6 (60 kayos) 1 ND

Art Aragon was boxing's "Golden Boy" prior to Oscar De La Hoya (though Twenties heavyweight Jack Demave was the first to use the nickname.) Aragon was a colorful and extemely popular contender in both the Lightweight and Welterweight divisions, based out of Los Angeles during the 1950's. Aragon beat such good figthers as: Enrique Bolanos, Teddy "Redtop" Davis, Johnny Gonsalves, Jimmy Carter, Lauro Salas, Don Jordan, Danny Giovanelli, and Chico Vejar.

In his sole title shot, Aragon was completely dominated by Jimmy Carter, whom he previously had defeated. The mob-controlled Carter was known to be "Carbonized", meaning that he often fought on orders from Frankie Carbo. He would usually fight poorly when the odds were heavily in his favor, as they were in his non-title fight with Aragon.



1944
May 23 Frenchy Renee Los Angeles W 4
Jun 6 Ray Puente Los Angeles W 4
Jun 20 Frankie Gallardo Los Angeles KO 2
Jul 4 Tino Wilson Los Angeles KO 1
Jul 25 Spider Hewitt Los Angeles W 4
Aug 1 Louis Salas Los Angeles KO 1
Aug 8 Lou Bernal Los Angeles W 6
Sep 5 Henry Zamora Los Angeles KO 1
Sep 19 Gene Rooney Los Angeles KO 2
Oct 9 Stacky Rowe Ocean Park, CA KO 1
Oct 16 Tony Riviera Ocean Park, CA L 5

1945
Feb 9 Bert White Hollywood, CA L 6
Oct 3 Fabela Chavez Las Vegas W 6
Oct 17 Fabela Chavez Las Vegas L 8

1946
Oct 7 Billy Ryan Boston KO 2
Oct 14 Bobby Burton Boston KO 4
Oct 21 Pedro Corchado Boston KO 1
Nov 5 Billy Nappier Salem, MA D 8
Nov 18 Patsy Zoccano Boston KO 1
Nov 25 Johnny Parker Boston KO 1
Dec 8 Al Costa Boston W 8

1947
May 20 Charley Early Salem, MA L 10

1948
Feb 3 Jimmy Shans Los Angeles D 4
Mar 22 Ray Louis Ocean Park, CA KO 1
Mar 30 Connie Smith Los Angeles KO 1
May 11 Clyde Coyhis Los Angeles KO by 7
Jun 23 John L. Davis Oakland L 8
Jul 21 John L. Davis Oakland W 10
Aug 25 Tommy Campbell Oakland TD 2
Sep 20 Richie Shinn San Francisco KO 6
Nov 1 Jesse Flores San Francisco D 10

1949
Jan 28 Chuchu Ruiz Hollywood, CA KO 2
Feb 18 Ray Powell Hollywood, CA KO 1
Mar 11 Alfredo Pescatore Hollywood, CA KO 1
Apr 1 Tim Dalton Hollywood, CA KO 7
Apr 27 Luther Rawlings Detroit L 10
May 20 Benny Black Hollywood, CA W 10
Jun 17 Wilf Desjardins Hollywood, CA KO 2
Jul 8 Harold "Baby Face" Jones Hollywood, CA W 10
Aug 26 Bolton Ford Hollywood, CA KO 2
Sep 9 Shamus McCray Albuquerque W 10
Sep 16 Tony Chavez Hollywood, CA KO 1
Sep 30 John L. Davis Hollywood, CA W 10
Oct 14 Julio Jiminez Hollywood, CA W 10
Nov 4 Freddie "Babe" Herman Hollywood, CA KO 5
Dec 2 Alfredo Escobar Hollywood, CA KO 3
Dec 20 Mario Trigo Los Angeles L 10

1950
Jan 24 Mario Trigo Los Angeles W 10
Feb 14 Enrique Bolanos Los Angeles KO 12
Apr 18 Guillermo Giminez Los Angeles KO 2
May 16 Tommy Campbell Los Angeles KO 3
(In 1956, Cambell confessed to taking a dive)
Jun 6 Carlos Chavez Los Angeles L 10
Jul 18 Enrique Bolanos Los Angeles KO 3
Sep 26 John L. Davis Los Angeles L 10
Nov 3 Archie Whitewater Hollywood, CA KO 2
Nov 21 Carlos Chavez Los Angeles KO 1
(In 1956, Chavez confessed to taking a dive)
Dec 12 Mario Trigo Los Angeles D 10

1951
Mar 6 El Conscripto Los Angeles KO 3
Apr 17 Harold "Baby Face" Jones Los Angeles W 10
May 8 Mario Trigo Los Angeles KO 9
May 22 Teddy "Redtop" Davis Los Angeles W 10
Jul 24 Johnny Gonsalves Los Angeles W 10
Aug 28 Jimmy Carter Los Angeles W 10
Nov 14 Jimmy Carter Los Angeles L 15
(For World Lightweight Title)

1952
Feb 5 Manny Madrid Los Angeles KO 6
Mar 4 Lauro Salas Los Angeles W 10
Apr 15 Freddie "Babe" Herman Sacramento, CA KO 10
Jun 19 Joey Barnum Albuquerque KO 2
Oct 16 Phil Kim Los Angeles KO 9
Nov 20 Bob Terrance Hollywood, CA KO 10

1953
Jan 29 Billy Graham Los Angeles L 10
Jun 26 Elmer Beltz Los Angeles KO 1
Aug 5 Henry Davis San Francisco KO 10
Oct 2 Ramon Fuentes Los Angeles L 10
Dec 3 Danny Womber Los Angeles W 10
Dec 15 Art Soto Sacramento, CA KO 10

1954
Feb 18 Chuck Davey Los Angeles W 10
Jul 1 Vince Martinez Los Angeles L 10
Sep 1 Mario Trigo Albuquerque KO 5

1955
Mar 1 Armando Muniz El Paso, TX KO 3
Mar 20 Mario Trigo Mexicali, Mexico KO 4
Apr 21 Morris Leviege Los Angeles KO 7
May 5 Johnny McCray Los Angeles KO 2
Jun 2 Don Jordan Los Angeles W 10
Aug 4 Joe Miceli Los Angeles L 10
Oct 27 Woody Winslow Los Angeles KO 10
Dec 15 Don Jordan Los Angeles W 10

1956
Feb 7 Ramon Tiscareno Hollywood, CA KO 2
Mar 27 Danny Giovanelli Hollywood, CA KO 9
Apr 9 Raoul Perez Stockton, CA KO 5
May 3 Jimmy Carter Los Angeles W 10
Aug 29 Cisco Andrade Los Angeles KO 9
Dec 4 Gene Portier Hollywood, CA KO 3

1957
Sep 2 Alfredo Cota Tijuana W 10
Dec 20 Woody Winslow San Diego W 10

1958
Jan 6 Joey Abasta Tucson, AZ KO 6
Feb 4 Walter Tyler San Bernadino, CA KO 8
Mar 15 Chico Vejar Hollywood, CA W 10
Apr 17 Bob Torrance Albuquerque KO 9
May 24 Alfonso Flores Hollywood, CA KO 6
Sep 5 Carmen Basilio Los Angeles KO by 8
Dec 2 Frankie Belma Fresno, CA D 10

1959
Jan 7 Jesse Bogart Albuquerque KO 2
Jan 13 Dickie Wong Phoenix KO 2
Jan 31 Charlie Sawyer Hollywood, CA ND 4
(Aragon originally won by KO, changed by commission)
Apr 25 Joe Miceli Hollywood, CA L 10
May 12 Bob Torrance Yuma, AZ KO 2
May 29 Manuel Caballero Hollywood, CA KO 3
Jun 9 Hank Davis Tucson, AZ KO 5
Jul 3 Pat Lowry Hollywood, CA W 10
Oct 5 Peter Schmidt Santa Monica, CA W 10
Dec 3 Reybon Stubbs Los Angeles L 10

1960
Jan 21 Alvaro Gutierrez Los Angeles KO by 9

gregbeyer
06-15-2005, 09:19 PM
i was too young to have seen aragon box. he was however a fixture around LA boxing when i got interested in the game. he was always fun to listen to. in the old main street gym there was an old newspaper photo of him and mario trigo.

art can be seen in a great old boxing movie called " the ring".

after his boxing career ended art became a bail bondsman in LA. true to his comedic form arts business card read..."we'll get you out if it takes ten years".

when art re-met carmen basilio at the training camp of billy backus many years after their fight art hugged carmen and said "i love you...you gave me brain damage"
greg

kikibalt
06-15-2005, 11:21 PM
As a young kid an as a man i was lucky to see Art Aragon fight , here is a list of Aragon fights that i seen.
1949-Mario Trigo, 1950-Both Enrique Bolanos fights,Archie whitewater, one Carlos Chavez fight, 1951 - both Jimmy Carter fights, 1952-Lauro Salas 1953- Ramon Fuentes 1954-Chuck Davey,Vince Martinez,1955-both Don Jordan fights, Joe Miceli,1956- Cisco Andade 1958-Carmen Basilio-1960- Alvaro Gutierrez.
I have the movie THE RING ,Art was found guilty of fixing a fight ,the verdict was over turned on appeal
Lauro Sales and Aragon got in a fight in a bar before their fight ,Salas was just a featherweight , Salas went on to win the lightweight title from Jimmy Carter

kikibalt
06-16-2005, 12:25 AM
GorDoom
You know how much i paid to see the Aragon vs Carter title fight ? all of $5

StingerKarl
06-16-2005, 12:35 AM
I loved Art in the movie "Fat City" with Nicholas Colasanto. They had some immortal boxing lines in that diner scene where they were eating pie and drinking coffee. "I remember the first time I passed blood..I was one scared kid!" "Can you breathe out of your nose?" "Yeah, can't you?"...."Not when it rains."
Karl

kikibalt
06-16-2005, 12:42 AM
Karl
Thats one hell of a movie ,Fat City that Stockton ca.

StingerKarl
06-16-2005, 01:15 AM
kiki: you remember the Southern Ca boxing writer Bill O'Neill?
He was the West Coast feature writer for Boxing Illustrated.
Karl

kikibalt
06-16-2005, 01:24 AM
Yes i do

StingerKarl
06-16-2005, 01:32 AM
He is a personal friend of mine.
Had some good things to say about you.
Karl

Chuck1052
06-16-2005, 03:45 AM
Art Aragon also was in the Audie Murphy
autobiographical WWII film, TO HELL AND
BACK.

- Chuck Johnston

kikibalt
06-16-2005, 12:16 PM
Karl
Say hi to Bill for me, tell him that i say thank for any kind words he mignt say about me

KiKiBalt

kikibalt
09-28-2005, 11:04 PM
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Boxscribe
09-29-2005, 06:10 AM
I read somewhere that Art Aragon was trained by former state middle champ Jack Chase. Does anyone here have any more information on this?

gregbeyer
09-29-2005, 12:46 PM
art can also be seen as a younger man in the old 50's boxing movie "the ring". if you have never seen that one you should try to find it.
greg

kikibalt
09-29-2005, 02:12 PM
Boxscribe
Art Aragon was trained by Benny Conyers
for most of his career

Frank B.

kikibalt
06-03-2006, 01:39 PM
Art Aragon
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kikibalt
06-03-2006, 03:04 PM
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kikibalt
06-03-2006, 04:38 PM
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dongee
06-04-2006, 04:05 PM
boxscribe:

I was with Art and Jack Chase when the latter was his trainer. In fact, we had set up a total gym at Hollywood Legion Stadium so boxers who were loyal to the Legion would not have to train any other place. That was in 1949 if memory serves.

It was one of two different times in the late 1940s. early 1950s that the two rival managers' organizations in southern California were feuding. The Olympic Aud. had its adherents, the Legion had its own group. It was a sad time in the California fight game. I believe those Aragon photos posted were all taken at the Legion Stadium.

Chase had a soft-spoken but very effective way of instructing Artie during the sparring sessions in the Legion's permanent ring. For whatever reason, Jack Chase didn't train Art for long,,,,,maybe a few weeks, that's all.

Art was first managed and trained by Lee Boren (who later had both Bobby Why and Rudy Garcia) . Boren sold the contract to Barney Barnett who in turn sold the paper to Jimmy Roche, who brought in Benny Conyers as his trainer.

Some day, some one will produce a film dealing with the life and times of California's first Golden Boy---Art Aragon. That man and Enrique Bolanos, along with Manuel Ortiz, kept the game alive in the Golden State just after the booming war years had died down.

hap navarro

kikibalt
06-04-2006, 04:23 PM
Hap
Keep the stories from yesteryear ( 30s-40s-50s ) coming . I just love your stories as it take me back to my teens, it was about the time I got into amateur boxing, an later on boxing in general.

Frank B.

dongee
06-04-2006, 06:37 PM
Hap
Keep the stories from yesteryear ( 30s-40s-50s ) coming . I just love your stories as it take me back to my teens, it was about the time I got into amateur boxing, an later on boxing in general.

Frank B.

Happy to do so, Mr. B.

And really thankful for your appreciation----I'll try not to bore you, okay?

hap

kikibalt
06-04-2006, 07:15 PM
Hap-- You'll never bore me.

Frank

Zevl
06-05-2006, 01:58 PM
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Art Aragon and Marilyn Monroe

Zevl
06-06-2006, 10:32 AM
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kikibalt
06-06-2006, 11:20 AM
Zev

One more.

Frank

dongee
06-06-2006, 12:06 PM
Frank B:

In case you haven't noticed, Artie is wearing GOLD trunks in that posted photo!

He was something to see in those days. He wore gold trunks, a gold robe and after he lay claim to the California Lightweight Title----he posed with a huge golden crown atop his curly head! I can't recall his shoes off hand, but chances are they were gold-dyed also.

Once we had gotten William Holden to beqeath his "Golden Boy" title to Art Aragon in the Legion Stadium ring, Art's people did everything to make the monicker stick. And everything worked for him.


hap navarro

kikibalt
06-06-2006, 12:21 PM
Hap
I sure remember the gold trunks & robe, but I'm pertty sure his shoes were black.


Frank

Zevl
09-01-2006, 11:28 AM
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Art Aragon vs. Carmen Basilio

kikibalt
10-25-2006, 02:46 PM
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ART ARAGON

kikibalt
10-25-2006, 02:47 PM
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kikibalt
10-25-2006, 02:48 PM
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Chuck1052
10-26-2006, 01:53 AM
Frank- I am wondering if you know about other fighters of
Mexican descent being in the service. By the way, my
mother was going to Santa Paula High School in Santa
Paula, California during World War II and told me that
forty percent of the student body was of Mexican descent.
Of course, there were so many of the guys leaving the school
and going into the service at the time.

- Chuck Johnston

kikibalt
10-26-2006, 01:05 PM
Chuck

Some names that come to mind.

Boxers-----------------------Non-Boxer

Vince Delgado----------------Joe Olmos
Joe Orbillo--------------------Johnny Flores
Rudy Cruz--------------------Dave Martinez
Costello Cruz
Gil Cadilli
Carlos Palomino
Mando Muniz
Ramon Fuentes
Cisco Andrade
Francisco De La Cruz
Carlos Chavez
Al chavez
Manuel Ortiz
Bobby Jackson ( Cecil Romeno )
Ernie Rios, L-H-1940's

Chuck1052
10-26-2006, 01:30 PM
Frank- Thanks for the list of Mexican Americans of the boxing
world who were in the service. It seems that very few people
outside the Southwest has any idea about people of Mexican
descent being in the service, especially during major wars.

- Chuck Johnston

kikibalt
10-26-2006, 01:48 PM
Chuck
Have you read the book " Among The Valiant " by Raul Morin?

Frank

Chuck1052
10-26-2006, 11:44 PM
Frank- I am sorry, but I haven't read "Among the Valiant."
But I remember reading in the Los Angeles Times about a
mother of Mexican descent who lost two sons, one who
who killed during World War II and won the Congressional
Medal of Honor posthumously while the other was killed
during the Korean War. I think that the poor mother had to
hock some furniture in order to bury the second son.

- Chuck Johnston

kikibalt
10-27-2006, 08:39 AM
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kikibalt
10-31-2006, 05:12 PM
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Art Aragon, Marilyn Monroe & Mickey Rooney--1952

kikibalt
10-31-2006, 05:15 PM
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Art Aragon,Marilyn Monroe, Mickey Rooney & Dale Robertson--1952

kikibalt
11-11-2006, 05:48 PM
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kikibalt
11-11-2006, 05:54 PM
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kikibalt
11-13-2006, 08:26 PM
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Dan1213
02-25-2007, 01:30 PM
Aragon - Campbell KO (Some claim Campbell took a dive).
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