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07-16-2008, 10:57 PM
Marquez has a lot on the line against Casamayor
By Robert Morales

Juan Manuel Marquez is one of the few today who can lose and still remain a consensus top 10 pound-for-pound fighter. He is that good.

If he had his druthers, he would be tuning up for his third fight with pound-for-pound king Manny Pacquiao in order to continue to prove that. But since that is not going to happen just yet, Marquez is doing the next best thing by moving up in weight and challenging Joel Casamayor for his interim lightweight world championship.

They will get it on Sept. 13 at MGM Grand in Las Vegas. It's not exactly what most would consider a pay-per-view main event. But HBO will indeed televise

this Golden Boy Promotions card on its pay-per-view arm for $44.95.

The parties got together Tuesday at a news conference in Los Angeles to formally announce what has the potential to be a thriller. Casamayor may have just turned 37 on Saturday, but he showed last March that he is as vicious as ever when he stopped Michael Katsidis in the 10th round.

Casamayor was down once, Katsidis three times in a brutal fight. It was the first loss for Katsidis, a heavy hitting 27-year-old with an all-out attacking style.

In other words, Mexico's Marquez may be the early betting favorite, but he could be in for one of the most punishing fights of his career by taking on Cuba's Casamayor. Not only has Casamayor been a full-blown lightweight for four years, he can be very dirty in a given fight.
Marquez was not even a big 130-pound junior lightweight when he lost a split decision to Pacquiao in their second fight last March. And he's two months away from stepping into the ring with a hard-nosed 135-pound lightweight who will not hesitate to rough him up.

But you don't think that's going to scare Marquez, do you? Not a chance.

"He wanted the third fight with Pacquiao real bad," said Golden Boy matchmaker Eric Gomez, who said a deal offered Pacquiao was rejected. "So Juan Manuel said, 'Get me the next best thing.' "

Gomez said Nate Campbell, another lightweight champion, turned down Marquez.

"So the next best thing was Casamayor," Gomez said.

Gomez, like everyone present Tuesday, agreed that Marquez more than has his hands full with Casamayor. Heck, he could have fought a tune-up fight and no one would have complained. Then he could have approached Pacquiao again for something early next year.
Chances are that Bob Arum, Pacquiao's promoter, wants to let a third fight between Pacquiao and Marquez build to a fever pitch before making it. By early next year fans would be hot for that. Marquez certainly deserves it. As his promoter, Oscar De La Hoya, attests.
"He had great fights against Manny Pacquiao," De La Hoya said, "which both could have gone either way."

In their first fight in May 2004, Marquez got off the canvas three times in the first round. He came back to earn a 12-round draw. There were more than a few reporters who had Marquez winning. This one had Marquez coming all the way back to win by one point.

But again, there is no Marquez-Pacquiao III, so Casamayor it is.

"Casamayor is a great fighter, a great boxer, a great champion," Marquez said. "This fight at 135 is going to be very difficult for me, but possible to win."

Marquez went on to say that he wants to win for his country, for his Mexican people because the event is coming around the Sept. 16 Mexican Independence Day.

Well, the only way Marquez is going to feel he has his independence is if he gets that third fight with Pacquiao and finally emerges victorious. The thing is he has put himself in a position where he has to move up in weight and take on a rugged guy like Casamayor - and win.

If Marquez gets bombed out because he just isn't big enough to keep the left-handed Casamayor (36-3-1, 22 KOs) off him, it is doubtful Arum and Pacquiao would still entertain a third fight.

Marquez apparently couldn't care less about the risk.

"Moving up to 135 isn't going to be an easy task," De La Hoya said. "But Marquez, like the champion he is, is going to continue fighting the best to prove he is the great fighter he is."
This isn't just promoter rhetoric. Let's face it, Marquez has never received his just recognition even though he has been one of the best fighters in the world for the better part of this decade. Even Casamayor was impressed about Marquez making this move to challenge him for his belt. He said other star fighters over the years have not stepped up to the plate in this fashion.

"Nobody has wanted to fight me," Casamayor said. "Not (Marco Antonio) Barrera, not Pacquiao, not (Erik) Morales. It just shows what kind of a fighter Marquez is."

Marquez, 34, is going to have to be all that and more if he is going to make this move up a success. With a record of 48-4-1 and 35 knockouts, Marquez has a more than respectable knockout ratio. But he's not a one-punch knockout artist, and it's somewhat difficult to fathom that he is going to be able to dissuade Casamayor from coming full steam ahead.
Katsidis could't discourage Casamayor with his legimate lightweight power punches.

"I never thought that kid (Katsidis) would be that tough," Casamayor marveled, looking up and rolling his eyes for effect. "He was a lot tougher than people thought. It was a great fight, not only for me and Katsidis, but for the fans."

The hope here is that Marquez-Casamayor provide fans another great fight. The $44.95 demands it.

Robert Morales can be reached at rmorales@15rounds.com

07-17-2008, 12:46 AM
from fightnews.com

As if the lightweight division could not have been any more competitive, you could add another player to what boxing insiders call the best division in boxing. Juan Manuel Marquez, the former featherweight and super featherweight world champion, will move up in weight. Rather than fight in a tune-up bout, he will fight one of the best boxers in the world today in his next bout. Marquez will take on lightweight champion Joel Casamayor in a 12 round bout on Saturday, September 13th at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, NV

09-10-2008, 11:19 PM
Casamayor-Marquez: Postscript at an Intersection

By Cliff Rold

“It's weird...you know the end of something great is coming, but you want to hold on, just for one more second...just so it can hurt a little more.” – Unknown

There is skepticism in the air for at least one of the big fights on tap this weekend. Oddly, it’s the fight with the two biggest names, the two most likely future Hall of Fame entrants. The possibility of a bad style clash stopping a fight from breaking out has been discussed by this scribe and many others. It’s there. It’s legitimate.

This Saturday, for those who pay to see it, lineal World Lightweight champion Joel Casamayor (36-3-1, 22 KO) makes the third defense of his claim to the throne against Juan Manuel Marquez (48-4-1, 35 KO). No matter how it plays out in the ring, we know both grizzled old veterans will be there and are long past proving their legitimacy. Looking for angles beyond how the styles might, or might not, mash up, there are plenty of positive approaches.

There’s the Mexico-Cuba rivalry…the chance to talk about men like Jose Napoles and Kid Chocolate.

There’s the implications on a wild Lightweight class…will this lead someday to Marquez-Manny Pacquiao III? Will the winner face the winner of Saturday’s other big divisional clash between multi-belted titlist Nate Campbell and Joan Guzman?

Those are all conversations worth having.

One could also think about Knockout Kings.

In 1999, the first version of the video game that would morph into Fight Night unveiled its first version on the original Playstation. Needless to say, it was a blast, the best Boxing game ever…until the 2000 version did it up even better. Then the PS2 hit and Knockout Kings 2001 came with it, complete with a fantasy match-up mode.

The typical stuff was there, mythical dances like Ray Robinson-Ray Leonard at users fingertips. There was also a suggestion of more modern flavor, a fantasy clash between Floyd Mayweather and Erik Morales. At the time the game came out, in the real world, Morales was fresh off his war with Marco Antonio Barrera at 122 lbs. and Mayweather was headed towards his still-amazing domination of Diego Corrales at 130. The weight difference, and the relatively early stages of the two men’s careers, made it slightly laugh-worthy at the time based on the size spread alone.

Casamayor-Marquez is a piece of that fantasy come to life and whether the two technicians produce yawns or yee-haws, it’s no laughing matter.

It’s a chance to hold on for one more second.

Eras in Boxing are a tricky thing to define. Sometimes single figures stand out and get a whole age named after them; “The Ali Era” for instance. Other times, groups of notable fighters emerge together to define each other and the times they bled in. Fight fans in the late 1990s and throughout the 2000s were blessed with two such groups, divided most of the time between 122/126 and 130/135 lbs.

Casamayor-Marquez will mark the first big marquee clash of those ‘eras.’ It might be the last and only. Both eras are, for all intents and purposes, over. Sure, Boxing might get Pacquiao-Marquez III someday, but it likely won’t be for at least another year and Marquez isn’t getting any younger. The blooms are all but off a crop of roses and this era intersection comes as more postscript than defining chapter.

Every second of pretending otherwise can be comforting.

For all the tales of woe and laments for days gone by, it’s hard to find fault in the last decade at Feather or Lightweight. When this period in history is looked back on, both weight ranges will have five fighters apiece who stand out above the rest. From 122-126 (with significant late action at 130), Morales, Barrera, Pacquiao and Marquez were joined by Naseem Hamed. From 130-35, Casamayor stood afield with Diego Corrales, Jose Luis Castillo, Acelino Freitas and Floyd Mayweather.

Read the Rest at: http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=15842

09-13-2008, 10:50 AM
There will be no rebroadcast next week of this fight, am I buying it because its not going to be rebroadcast? NO!!

Sergio Mora barely makes the weight

Two hours after tipping the scale at 156 pounds, he makes the limit of 154 for bout against Vernon Forrest.
September 13, 2008

LAS VEGAS -- Sergio Mora, a major player in today's boxing card at the MGM Grand, gave promoters a scare Friday before making his 154-pound weight about two hours after the first weigh-in.

Mora, of Los Angeles, will fight Vernon Forrest of Atlanta in a rematch of their June fight, won by Mora, who gained the attention of the boxing world by winning the TV show "The Contender." Mora's first weigh-in was 156 pounds.

Their match will directly precede the main event between Juan Manuel Marquez of Mexico and Joel Casamayor, the Cuban who now lives in Miami. They will fight at 135 pounds, and both hit that number in Friday's weigh-in.

The televised card, an HBO pay-per-view show ($44.95) that will not be rebroadcast next weekend -- the norm with these pay-per-view shows -- will begin at 6 p.m. It will include three fights labeled title events: Marquez-Casamayor; Mora-Forrest; and a 12-rounder between junior-welterweights (140 pounds) Victor Ortiz of Oxnard and Roberto Arrieta of Argentina.

The card will start on-site at 3 p.m. and feature a total of eight bouts.

Bill Dwyre