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GorDoom
10-11-2008, 01:28 PM
Wladimir Klitschko Sucks has volunteered to cover tonight's card. As always we can expect WKS to be COMPLETELY unbiased when it comes to the Klits (g).

I wish Dawson was fighting somebody besides Tarver because if I never see Tarver again it will be too soon. Klit-Peter does hold some intrigue. Can Klit comeback after such a long layoff & overcoming his various injuries? Is he going to be the warrior Klit we saw against Lewis? Or the Klit we've seen every other time he's fought?

Per usual please keep all discussion of this card to this thread. Redundant threads will be deleted.

thanks,

GorDoom

PeteLeo
10-11-2008, 06:21 PM
I know the result of Peter-Klitschko. Should I post it or allow the Showtime broadcast to unfold naturally? PeteLeo.

GorDoom
10-11-2008, 06:59 PM
Pete:

I would suggest you let it unfold naturally ...BUT, if you wanna PM me the results it would be most appreciated ...

GorDoom

Wladimir Klitschko Sucks
10-11-2008, 09:14 PM
Vitali v Peter is the first fight tonight.

R1
Vitali pawing with a jab/hook. Vitali with a good 1-2. Peter tries to jab back. Good hook by Vitali to Peters chin. Peter content to just plod forward, Peter staggered a bit and off balance, still tries to hjab. Peter cant get out of the way of V's left at all. Peter misses a wild left hook. Clear round for Vitali.

r2:
V using that same jab-hook to keep Peters at bay. Peter continue to come forward but Vtali is easily making peter miss. Clinch. V's hands are already down by his waist. Peters eats jab after jab, now V lands a big right. another BIg right by V. Another good left by V. Peter lands a right. Another round for Vitlali,

r3:
Peters starts a bigt better, tries a body shot. V continouosly landing that left hook. Peter reaching, trying to land. V cant seem to miss, landing lefts and rights. Peters tries a wild right but V counters with combos. V's round.

R4:
V starts by landing jabs. Peters lands a jab of his own. good right by V. Peters doing nothing but plodding forward like david Tua, eating shot after shot. Good right by V lands right on Peters chin. V appears wide open for a left hook, his hands are down by his fucking knees, but Peters does nothing. Peters looks slow and lifeless. Another Vitali round.

r5
The fight has open scoring and judges has it 4-0 Klitschko right now. V landing everything and Peters moving forward, Reply of the ohter four rounds.

r6
Same thing, nothing new to report, V's round.

R7
Peters looks like a hopeless clubfighter. a bit more aggressive this round but landing nothing. Peters eyes swelling up, V lands punch after punch after punch. ..

R8
Vitali landing big rights and then a left hook. Jabs scoring all night long. PEter just eating it. Peters mouth wide open. Peters lunges in but lands nothing. Another big round for Vitali.

Peters quits on his stool, says 'no more, it's over.' Surprising win by Klitschko in a one sided fight. Klitschko TKO between round 8 and 9.

Mike DeLisa
10-11-2008, 09:57 PM
Kid Pancho and Kid Nando were brothers and they fought at least 10 times as pros! Axel Berggren and brother Gunnar also duked it out in 1930.

Can't the Klits do it just once?

Ps -- Kid Pancho won all 10 bouts against his younger brother, while Axel stopped his younger bro!

TDKO
10-11-2008, 10:13 PM
Peter must have been drugged!!!!

(Ya, that's it.......)

Talk about a non -effort

Ughhhhhhh

Wladimir Klitschko Sucks
10-11-2008, 10:17 PM
Dawson v Tarver is up now.

R1
Tarver starts with the jab. Dawson feinting and moving. Dawson with a left to the body and lunges in with right hooks. Dawson with a right to the body. Dawson jumps in with body shots. Tarver lands a bodshot of his own. Another right to the body by D. good jab by D stops T in his trax. Good combo by Dawson who looks really fast. I give the edg to Dawson in this round.

R2
D lands a good right counter. Tarver pawing with jabs. D with a good right uppercut, then another good combo . Now another uppercut by Dawson. Tarver takes them well though. Tarver now stalking and jabbing. Dawson fires off another 4 punch combo driving T back. D now content to move around the ring. T tries a few weak slow punches but may be a bit gunshy. Dawsons round.

round 3
Nady getting involved unnecessarily. Dawson lands a very good right hand and three jabs on Tarver. Tarver gettin lit up but taking the punches. Good uppercut by T. D responds with a jab that snaps back T's head. Another uppercut by T sneaks in, now a good combo by Tarver. good action. Tarver stalks and Dawson not throwing much in the second half of the round. I give the round to Tarver.

round 4
Dawson goes to the body. Tarver crowds D in the corner, but D gets out. Another good rbodyshot by D. T pawing, D missing a right. Good jab by D. D with a 4 punch combo pushes T back. Tarver jabs. good right jab by D disrupts T. more bodyshots by D. good defense by D. UPpercut by Tarver gets blocked. Very good punches land for D at the end of the round. Dawsons round.

round %
Tarver coming forward. Good striahgt left stuns Tarver and D is jumping on him. T trying to remain cool, still coming forward. T missing feeble punches. D throws a 5 punch combo but most is blocked. Tarver missing. D lighing T up again. Good bodyshots by D. Good bodyshot by Tarver. Big miss by Dawson. T attempts an uppercut but its blocked. Rabbit punch by Tarver. Dawson's round.

round 6
Tarver lands a left that pushes back D. D clinches. D jabbing but missing. D misses a left. D lands a straight left. Dawson moving but not throwing. Tarver landing good shots. Tarver lands a good left, D takes it. Dawson covering up and just resting. appears to be taking the round off. Tarver landing lots of bodyshots. Tarver getting confidence. Dawson taunting Tarver and talking to him. Clear round for Tarver.

round 7
Tarver starts quickly in this round. Now Dawson unloading. jabbing and throwing combos. Dawson makes T miss. Tarver with a few body shots. Dawson lands a good right, then another 5 punch combo. Tarvers shots look weak. Dawson lands other combo, Nady warns him for low shots. Dawson smothiering Tarver. round ends with Tarver stalking. Dawsons round.

round 8
Tarver throwing a lot but it's getting blocked. Dawson going backwar, now unloading a combo. D not doing much. Now he lands another combo. Tarver flailing. Dawson jumps on him and Tarver covers up. Dawson finishes the round strong after a slow start. Dawson round.

round 9
not much action through the first half. Dawson appears way fresher. Tarver continues to stalk. Tarver lands a straight left. Tarver busier this round. Good combo and uppercut by Dawson. Excellent body work by Dawson and an uppercut makes Tarvers head go back. Dawson round but closer.

round 10
good uppercut by D, then unloads on Tarver. bodyshot in close by D lands on Tarver. Tarvers arms look like wet noodles. D lands a triple jab. Good left by Dawson. Uppercut and a right pushes Tarver back. Dawson ends strong.

round 11
Tarver busier this round but Dawson blocking a lot. Tarver more active. Decent flurry by D toward the end of the round. Non descript round that Tarver probably won because Dawson didnt do much.

round 12
Dawson throws about 15 unanswered shots, hes just way too quick. Tarver looks confused. Dawson unloads with a righthand and knocks down Tarver, T sprawled backward really awkward and his glove hit the floor. Tarver up, appears ok. Dawson now unloading again. Tarver continues to throw and is trying his best to stop Dawson. Dawson now slowing down. Tarver is desperate. Dawson still throwing. Good uppercut by Dawson. Tarver landing good shots. Commentators saying that Tarver won this round but they mustve forgot that Tarver went down.

Judges score cards:
unanimous win for Chad Dawson
118-109
117-110x2

mrbig1
10-11-2008, 11:14 PM
Both fights when the way I thought it would.

diggity
10-11-2008, 11:19 PM
Both fights went the way I hoped they would. :)

mrbig1
10-11-2008, 11:28 PM
Tarver is done as a fighter. Peter first must learn how to fight. I picked Vitali to win not because he's that good but because Peter is that bad. I saw a big fat MW in James Toney made Peter look foolest in their first fight. Either learn to slip a jab or go to the MMA.

Ron Lipton
10-11-2008, 11:46 PM
What can I say except I love boxing with all my heart, I watched the fight and was happy a doubleheader was on Showtime to make my Saturday night of enjoyment. I watched them both and grieved for boxing itself.

Yoda says, "So bad they are." Heavyweight champions? Dear God, so boring, so unskilled, so out of shape. Poster boys for MMA success.

Bob Foster must be watching this fight in New Mexico, a little drunk perphaps and say to his woman, I would take them both out in the first round one after the other. Bob, you are so right and you ain't bragging you are telling the truth.

Sooooooooooooooooooo boring, Eagles among crows. God almighty we have to start training fighters to excite people and win titles.

PeteLeo
10-11-2008, 11:58 PM
Pete:

I would suggest you let it unfold naturally ...BUT, if you wanna PM me the results it would be most appreciated ...

GorDoom


Sorry, went out to dinner with one of the ex's after that post. Stevie-Boy emailed me the result, which, in turn, had been emailed to him by one of his longtime fans who lives in Germany and watched the fight live.

Anyone notice that Ricardo Williams won a match on the undercard of Dawson-Tarver? I thought Ricardo was under the jail for the next couple of decades due to his drug-dealing. PeteLeo.

hagler04
10-12-2008, 01:58 AM
Dawson owes Johnson a rematch.

Ideally the winner of that should fight Joe Cal but it sounds like he'll retire after Roy.

Vitali Klitschko=Jess Willard . . .carbon copy, almost like a step back in time.

Peter is dreadful, like I've been saying for awhile. Ron is right. The HW division compared to eras past is like comparing the Majors to the Mid-West Amateurs . . just not even comparable b/c the gulf in talent and depth is so vast.

Dan Gunter
10-12-2008, 02:31 AM
Klitscho was better than Peters--but that is saying so very, very little. I think that Jersey Joe Walcott would take out either Peters or Klitschko within the distance. Heck, I think that Carnera would have a decent chance against Peters.

diggity
10-12-2008, 04:31 AM
Say what you will about the terrible state of the heavies but Vitaly must be given a ton of credit tonight. He beat Peter easily, barely breaking a sweat. It was so easy it was pathetic. 4 year layoff? Give the man his due for undressing someone who has yet to be dominated anywhere close to that. He made Peter look like a sparring partner.

HE Grant
10-12-2008, 07:16 AM
Vitali has almost never been credit by most here . For a thirty seven year old guy coming off four years of inactivity he did terrific. When you are 6' 7" tall you are going to look sloppy at times and he did and was. However, he came in decent shape, he came to fight, he completely dominated Peter and won the fight. He is also already injured as his hands are swollen and very sore. Peter was completely dominated as he had never been before . He could not storm in because he was being badly punished. All in all an impressive impressive performance.

hagler04
10-12-2008, 11:11 AM
Say what you will about the terrible state of the heavies but Vitaly must be given a ton of credit tonight. He beat Peter easily, barely breaking a sweat. It was so easy it was pathetic. 4 year layoff? Give the man his due for undressing someone who has yet to be dominated anywhere close to that. He made Peter look like a sparring partner.

I completly agree Vitali put forth an impressive first-fight performance after a very long layoff.

But Peter is so bad to me it was on par with Tito coming back and KO'ing Mayorga. And Ricardo actually has more skills.

WBC paper title or not, Peter was a CONTENDER and not a champion. And while Vitali did dominate him more than any other opponent, Wlad and Toney both gave Peter boxing lessons when their own glaring vulnerabilities didn't shine through (Toney's weight/conditioning and Wlad's chin/fear of getting hit)

Concerning the other card, I wonder if Tarver is now going to call it a day. He's closing in on 40 and b/c of the Roy trilogy has made a good amount of $. I don't think he has really anywhere to go after this. 4th fight with Roy? Johnson rubber match?? Snoooz.

Ron Lipton
10-12-2008, 11:30 AM
I understand Diggity and He Grant's POV, he definitely dominated Peter and after all that time off he gets his props for sure. It is just that Peter is forever incapable of losing the girth of fat around his obliques, lower back and entire midsection which impedes him from doing anything but hitting a stationary heavy bag.

As to Vitali, what can I say except what I saw. A boxer with his hands down, very slow, basic boxing 101 in the gym and no aura of any kind of dazzling skilll, speed, power or movement.

It is a Terminator wasteland of a division. Being 6'7 is no excuse, you can either fight like a champion or you cannot. Imagine Joe Louis blasting away at him like he did with Carnera. Whats next Valuev and Kilit in Land of the Giants sub novice Empire Games.

Bring on the dancing Bears. So sad.

HE Grant
10-12-2008, 11:42 AM
Carnera's coming back ?

Ron Lipton
10-12-2008, 12:27 PM
I saw him in the gym yesterday, he was talking to a guy who looked like Humphrey Bogart while saying, "Eddie, I have money now to buy shoes for my father?," and Bogey handed him an envelope I didn't want to interupt them.

He's fighting Klit next.

sr71ko
10-12-2008, 01:07 PM
I am glad that Tarver loss to Dawson, but for me, and I am only speaking for myself.......my worst heavyweight nightmare has been achieved. Both of the Klit brothers hold heavyweight title bouts. I wish the boxing gods would bless us with an American Hope to knock out all of the former soviet bloc fighters of their pedestals. I admit I am biased towards them. I am a relic of the cold war days and I never liked or trusted these Russians or former Russian republics. Unfortunately they are the best of a very bad lot of heavyweights. As I had said earlier, the Klits are lucky that they didn't come up in a different time, because they would be champs. A prime Tyson, Holyfield, Riddick Bowe, Lennox Lewis, would have cleaned their clocks. Hell even contendors/titlists like Oliver McCall, Tony Tucker, Tommy Morrison, Cooney, Corrie Sanders(the South African) would get to them as well. How did we get here? In my opinion, we have lost an entire generation of US heavyweight to the NFL and NBA. Guys in the inner cities are looking to these sports instead of boxing. Just Imagine if Ray Lewis, Terrel Owens, Hugh Douglas and a host of other well built line backers and defensive tackles had concentrated on boxing instead of college and pro football and basketball. American punchers Tommy Morrison and Earnie Shavers were both excellent foot ball players before they started boxing. We are losing to many punchers to football and basketball. From 1988-2008, lack of consistent boxing network coverage on ABC, NBC, CBS, bad olympic boxing decisions, too many PPVs, corruption, greed, and of course Mike Tyson's bitting bs has turned off both potential fans and sponsors. We haven't had a new US heavyweight sensation since a young Mike Tyson in 1985, but that just my 2 cents. I feel better now that I have vented.

TDKO
10-12-2008, 01:30 PM
On a positive note, it was nice to see a decent double header that wasn't pay per view, (even though one was not live).
I thought Tarver looked pretty good, and tried to stalk and land big shots against a much younger, stronger, faster opponent, who kept his hands high, kept focus and listened to his corner, (beautiful , fast combos to the head and body didn't hurt).
As far as the Klits....... seems like we are right back to where we were four years ago......bummer, but an American heavyweight will emerge, maybe this economy will help produce him.....(lol)
Vitali did fight Sanders, who came in dreadfully fat and out of shape, and fought with courage and guts and took his beating without quitting, even though his face was turned into hamburger, he landed some great straight lefts which shook Vitali, would have could have should have if he would have bothered to get in shape.

diggity
10-12-2008, 02:35 PM
I agree.
The topic of how bad the heavies are has been beaten to death & then some.

Dawson held to the game plan he needed to get the job done. I was very glad to see him beat Tarver convincingly. He was never in any real danger with Tarver as he took the initiative to take control of the fight anytime Tarver stepped up. Tarver to his credit fought very well, I don't think he beats Dawson if he was younger. Dawson isn't perfect but he is just faster & maybe overall just better. I'm curious how he would have done against RJJ way back when. He might have given him problems just like Tarver.

I think everyone here knows Vitaly is far from any graceful semblance of a heavy but he uses what he has well, he comes to fight & is always in condition. His feet are so damn big that he can't help but look clumsy each time he lifts a leg. I couldn't believe how easily he stayed out of Peter's reach even with his arms down like that. Peter was apparently spooked with the incoming. Vitaly doesn't look like he hits hard but nobody other than Lewis has ever took real chances against him. I'm left wondering how much Peter's life & death fight with McCline played into his tentativeness. Either way, this win sucks for the sport but I can't help but admire Vitaly for this one.

Sharkey
10-12-2008, 03:29 PM
I don't agree that Vitali's win is 'bad' for the sport. Let's assume Peter won.. then what? He fights Baby Brother, and then what?

Sam Peter or Wlad heading the division (or Valuev) to me, via an 'unwatchable series of events' is no better than having both Klitschko bros, Valuev and some assorted others milling around calling themselves champ, and people knowing it is ridiculous before we even examine the fighting acumen of the claimants.

I actually prefer to have my mediocre heavy champs not undisputed. Maybe that makes me a bad person... bad fan... nah..

PeteLeo
10-12-2008, 04:16 PM
Guys, watch the first round again and count the number of dead-on hooks, rights, and jabs Peter eats in those three minutes. The man got his ass kicked then and there, and it's no big shock to me that he wasn't Dwight Qawi on attack thereafter. Even the Tasmanian Devil would have second thoughts after getting whupped on like that early.

As much as it triggers revulsion in some of us, Klitschko is a damned good heavyweight fighter who knows how to maximize his physical dimensions against lesser men, just as Lewis was. And he has a very good chin.

I'm not calling him an all-time great, and I doubt that he's ever generally included in the top ten/twenty, but this continual lambasting of him goes a little beyond the pale (SIC?), in my opinion. Years ago, while hanging around the public library when my Mom was at work, I discovered microfilm and eagerly sought out contemporary accounts of fighters from earlier times in newspapers and magazines. The one guy whose coverage seemed most like the unending brickbats hurled at Klitschko today -- "clumsy," "ugly," "lucky this is such a poor time for heavyweights," "far removed from the glory of Dempsey and Louis," "amateurish," "easily beatable," and the like -- was an undersized performer whom many of you assembled here have probably seen on film: Rocco Francis Marchegiano, a.k.a. Rocky Marciano. Now, I am NOT comparing the two men in either talent or accomplishment, but when reading the words of sportswriters of the Fifties (especially in Newsweek), it's not difficult to draw parallels in the treatment of the pair.

Klitschko has done all that was asked of him in his career, aside from that one Saturday evening when he felt himself too injured to continue against Byrd. He's never been behind in points in a pro fight (who else can say that?), and his KO per centage is the highest in major heavyweight history. He's not "pretty," and his personality is neither the "Aw, shucks" ingenuousness nor the "I am the best there ever can be!" bombast that are so appealing to most fans, but who today has beaten a better level of fighters in his class? I hope he defeats Valuev and quits (or quits when Wlad beats Valuev) to make way for more compelling guys, but, shoot, let's give the Devil his due for now. Okay? PeteLeo.

prototypeofamodernmadman
10-12-2008, 05:05 PM
Damn, Peter's so stiff, slow and wild that he made Vitali look like Ali in there, the fact that Vitali used the stick and move gameplan is probably why he didn't kayo Peter, he was throwing quick stinging shots instead of overcommiting and sitting down on his punches, goddamn Peter looked awful, he had some zip on his shots in the first round but just looked slower and more exhausted as the rounds went on, shit, where does this fight leave Peter? a bout with Tua maybe?

greek1237
10-12-2008, 07:24 PM
I understand Diggity and He Grant's POV, he definitely dominated Peter and after all that time off he gets his props for sure. It is just that Peter is forever incapable of losing the girth of fat around his obliques, lower back and entire midsection which impedes him from doing anything but hitting a stationary heavy bag.

As to Vitali, what can I say except what I saw. A boxer with his hands down, very slow, basic boxing 101 in the gym and no aura of any kind of dazzling skilll, speed, power or movement.
It is a Terminator wasteland of a division. Being 6'7 is no excuse, you can either fight like a champion or you cannot. Imagine Joe Louis blasting away at him like he did with Carnera. Whats next Valuev and Kilit in Land of the Giants sub novice Empire Games.

Bring on the dancing Bears. So sad.

Hand down,?? I not saying Vitali is all time great here, but many good to great boxers box with hands down, Ali, Tunney, Dempsey, Corbett, Jones Jr, Armstrong, the list goes on.

mrbig1
10-12-2008, 07:25 PM
Peter looked bad because he doesn't know the art of boxing. No skill + no talent = getting your ass beat.

gregbeyer
10-12-2008, 08:20 PM
sam peter fought the dumbest fight i can imagine.... was there ever a formulated game plan for fighting a guy he was giving up so much height to?

sam looked like he was the one fighting tall.... where was the bob and weave?
could someone have trained him to come in low slam the right to the body and stay close? there are tapes of joe frazier out there and sams camp should have invested in a few.

greg

HE Grant
10-12-2008, 08:38 PM
I completely agree with PeteLeo here ... Vitali falls into the "No One Roots for Golaith category ... he's talented, very tough and brave. He took on Lennox Lewis on short notice. He took on Peter who roughed up his brother with no warm ups ... the four years off really threw off his all time rating as he might have had ten or twelve more defenses and we would have had more to gage him by ... whatever, for last night he deserves some due and will get it from me ,,,

wildhawke11
10-12-2008, 09:46 PM
How the world has changed
Well we once looked for a White Hope ---- we got him guys
Now this time were looking for a Black Hope
Forgive me guys but i could not resist this :)

For a guy away for four years i guess you have to give him credit he did the job so i agree with He Grant on this one. But would i be excited if i was given a free ringside seat at his next fight my answer has to be not really, he is just not my cup of tea.

bodyblow
10-12-2008, 11:05 PM
Peter was pathetic. I was actually rooting for Vitali but come on, at least make an effort! Peter had no head movement (except when Vitali wasnt punching), he stood straight up, pawed, stood on the outside waiting, never once went into a crouch which is how you need to fight and get inside on taller fighters. You the established methods of self defense and Peter showed a complete lack of knowledge on it. I was dumbfounded. I give Vitali credit and Im glad he won but I saw a lot of flaws. I mean hes about half a percent better than Carnera (who I think is underrated so dont take that as a total insult to Vitali). There were things that Peter could have capitilized on but he didnt, ever, once! I could have even understood had he gotten blitzed and KOd in the first after seeing him have so much trouble with McCline but to simply show up in bad shape and phone in your "effort" was pathetic. And speaking of his shape (round) did anyone notice that after throwing three punches (which was rare) he looked completely gassed. Finally, I dont think all the blame lies with Peter. Stacy McKinnley was terrible working his corner "You need to step it up" NO SHIT STACY, TELL HIM HOW! THATS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A HANDLER OF FIGHTERS AND SOMEONE WHO SITS AT HOME SCREAMING AT HIS TV!!!!

Mike DeLisa
10-13-2008, 12:43 AM
I've told this one before, but it fits here also.

I recall watching a W-Klit bout with my father and I told him that Klit had a PHD.

My old man said: "If he's so smart, why doesn't he keep his hands up?"

Ah, Brooklyn pith. There aint no substitute!

diggity
10-13-2008, 10:57 AM
Did anyone else see Tarver getting "pushed" (as he claimed) for the KD in the 12th? It looked like the kind of push thrown from a fist directly at the head to me.


Does anyone question what would happen in a fight between the brothers?

HE Grant
10-13-2008, 12:27 PM
Mike, it's time for a new schtick of yours on youtube ... the Klit joke is it... post it !

mrbig1
10-13-2008, 01:35 PM
sam peter fought the dumbest fight i can imagine.... was there ever a formulated game plan for fighting a guy he was giving up so much height to?

sam looked like he was the one fighting tall.... where was the bob and weave?
could someone have trained him to come in low slam the right to the body and stay close? there are tapes of joe frazier out there and sams camp should have invested in a few.

greg
Well said sir. Where was the game plan?

HE Grant
10-13-2008, 08:31 PM
Again some credit to Vitali ... Sam managed fine against Wlad and McCline ... he could not fight his fight because he was having his head handed to him ...

Sharkey
10-14-2008, 11:47 AM
Wherever Moises Alou is, he might be nodding with approval. This may be an all-time low for a thread... but it has to be read. Vitali ought to market urine soaked pads to put on one's back, etc.:

BERLIN -- Vitali Klitschko used his son's wet, used diapers to keep his fists from swelling up after winning his WBC heavyweight title bout against Nigeria's Samuel Peter, the Ukrainian told a German newspaper on Tuesday.

Klitschko said he wrapped them around his hands and they helped him recover.

"Baby wee is good because it's pure, doesn't contain toxins and doesn't smell," the 37-year old boxer told Bild after he won back the WBC title with a technical knockout on Saturday.

"I wrap nappies filled with my 3-year-old son Max's wee around my fists," Klitschko said, adding that he got the idea from his grandmother. "The nappies hold the liquid and the swelling stays down."

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--Vitali Klitschko


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Klitschko said Peter should try the nappy trick as well.
Peter chose not to come back out after eight rounds that saw him weaving and occasionally wobbling as Klitschko landed a persistent stream of heavy left jabs to Peter's head in front of more than 12,000 people at the new O2 World Arena.

The 37-year-old Ukranian fighter (36-2, 35 KOs) used his height -- he's 6-foot-7 -- and reach to keep Peter crouched and defensive.

Klitschko has been WBC "champion emeritus" since a knee injury forced him to withdraw from a fight and retire from boxing in 2005.

The honorary status gave him the right to fight Peter (30-2), who won the interim belt in a fight against Jameel McCline last September, whenever Klitschko chose to come out of retirement.

"I knew if I lost the fight I wouldn't get a second chance," Klitschko told reporters after the fight. "It was a one-way ticket, and I used my chance."

Promoter Don King said after the fight that a logical next step for Klitschko might be to seek a rematch with the retired Lennox Lewis, whom Klitschko lost to in 2003 when a fight doctor called the bout because Klitschko had a badly cut eye.

"What a triumph that would be for us old guys," King said.
Klitschko was more reticent.

"I need to think about it," he said of plans for his newly revived fighting career. "I need to take care of my hand, because it is swollen."

That would be where Max's wet diapers come in handy.

Mike DeLisa
10-14-2008, 12:20 PM
Well, I don't consider this news. Maybe if he had used Ali's diapers . . .

diggity
10-14-2008, 02:45 PM
alllllrighty then

gregbeyer
10-14-2008, 03:19 PM
all right. he's tougher than his little brother..... there i said it...

greg

prototypeofamodernmadman
10-14-2008, 03:27 PM
You guys see this? it's insane , I don't know if I believe it or not, it's from fightnews.com



[Vitali reveals secret remedy!
Just when you thought you've heard everything. WBC heavyweight champion Vitali Klitschko has revealed his secret remedy for keeping his hands from swelling after fights. The champion told BILD he wraps his hands with Pampers soaked with the urine of his three-year-old son Max. "Children's urine is pure, without toxic substances and hardly smells. Little Max must make peepee for Dad," Klitschko is quoted as saying. "Some people even drink their own urine, however I don't." The champ added, "I also recommend the urine compress for Sam Peter. He could wind it around his head."

gregbeyer
10-14-2008, 03:39 PM
actually urine is a leading remedy in parts of europe...no shit !

i was in croatia in '81 and while swimming the top of my big toe got a bunch of sea urchin spines in it which hurt like hell.... the locals told me to go piss on it... i was like "right... play a trick on the dumb american guy"... but finaly they convinced me...so i head off for the water closet , all the while looking for a hidden camera, sure enough the pain and swelling left right away... i was lucky the spines were not in my face...

greg

Rubber Warrior
10-14-2008, 04:03 PM
It was a solid win by Vitali no matter how much we point to Peter's clueless tactics or the fact he wasn't in the sort of condition we would have liked to see him in.

Vitali showed minimal rust. His timing was off just a hair, but he surprised me by looking like he did in 2004. It was as though he had been off for six months, no more.

Peter was hit solidly and slightly staggered about a minute or so into round one. Certainly, that added to his problems, perhaps making him all the more tentative.

Welcome back Vitali. Now please, stay active and do something useful.

prototypeofamodernmadman
10-14-2008, 05:04 PM
Yea, I know for athlete's foot, you can piss on your feet, and it's supposed to work, not to turn this thread into pissing.

Mike DeLisa
10-14-2008, 08:09 PM
Reading these posts has given me the shivers, akin, but not exactly, like those of post-micturition convulsion syndrome.

And with that, i say we all go start new threads!

doomeddisciple
10-14-2008, 08:55 PM
A 3 year old is not a baby. As the father of a 2 and a bit year old girl, there's no way I'm keeping my hand wraps in her nappy!

Wladimir Klitschko Sucks
10-14-2008, 09:50 PM
He's never been behind in points in a pro fight (who else can say that?),
Vitali clearly lost the first round against Corrie Sanders,

WKS

PeteLeo
10-15-2008, 12:15 AM
I meant at the conclusion, of course. He was well ahead of Chris Byrd and still hanging onto his lead over Lennox when the stoppages came.

I guess you could throw Marciano and Ricardo Lopez into that soup, as well (though both by the skin of their teeth: Marciano against LaStarza I, and Lopez in the first Alverez match).

Besides, I thought Klitschko pretty much controlled the first round until wobbled late for (maybe) an even-up, 10-10 score, didn't he? (I didn't keep a copy of that fight.) Then Vitali won the second and lost the third -- which still wouldn't have placed him behind -- before running the table on Sanders until the ending. PeteLeo.

hagler04
10-15-2008, 01:23 AM
all right. he's tougher than his little brother..... there i said it...

greg

I was talking to a fighter tonight who has sparred both Klitschkos and he basically said the expected answer when I asked him who was more difficult to fight. He said Wlad was slicker, faster, and the harder puncher, but that Wlad's chin and reaction to pressure made him ultimately the lesser fighter. He said that Vitali is easier to hit but that when you hit Wlad he'll hold you or back up, when you hit Vitali flush he gets pissed off and counters back.

bodyblow
10-15-2008, 03:24 PM
Wasnt Marciano behind on points in the first Walcott fight? I though he should have been behind against Louis in that stoppage. Also Ted Lowry in one of their fights which was supposedly a robbery.

greek1237
10-15-2008, 08:55 PM
Marciano was ahead vs Louis. It was not one of thsos great come from behide fights vs Louis. It was mostly a standy beating until the end about.

I had it 5-3 for Marciano(Counted the 8th as a Marciano round of couse)

I dont see how any one could have Rocky behide vs Louis in that fight imo.

the score cards leading up to the 8th round.
referee: Ruby Goldstein 4-2 | judge: Joe Agnello 5-2 | judge: Harold Barnes 4-3

Like I said, most of thsos guys got it right about.

sr71ko
10-16-2008, 03:33 PM
Hmmmmm. I could be wrong or just perhaps it is my suspicious mind towards Eastern European athletes, but could his secret weapon be some new type of steriods.......and perhaps have the Russian mob threaten him to not fighting or atleast come into the fight in horrible condition like Kirk Johnson and Corrie Sanders(I dont know this for a fact, but that baby pee comment is one of those things that make you say hmmmm)? But pee from diapers? That is really stretching it now.