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Off The River
05-26-2009, 04:20 AM
Yes gentlemen... It is on tonight. I will watch for the freak show factor and I apologise in advance.

I do like Choi a lot though ane feel that he can makke some waves if he is managed better. He seemed to lose a lot since his operation though.

Dogman_Tony
05-26-2009, 07:29 AM
A bit more interested in Kawajiri-Cavalcante, but yeah, I'll be watching too. Can't believe it will be good for Canseco.

diggity
05-26-2009, 08:57 AM
What is wrong with Canseco? He must really need the money.

Dogman_Tony
05-26-2009, 09:46 AM
I think you nailed it first try. :)

Dogman_Tony
05-26-2009, 01:06 PM
http://www.mmatko.com/jose-canseco-vs-hong-man-choi-fight-video-dream-9/#more-4640


He did better than I thought.

Off The River
05-26-2009, 06:34 PM
Yeah I was surprised too. He landed a few good shots, but every time he threw a punch or came close he turned and ran away.

I think Choi, with his toughness power and wrestling skills could have been something else had he not had to have that tumor removed. He really is a different fighter now. He seems more timid and frail.

Dogman_Tony
05-26-2009, 07:43 PM
If Canseco hadn't hurt his knee, he might have lasted, what, five minutes?

Agreed, Choi looks pretty bad compared to when he fought Fedor.

diggity
05-26-2009, 08:15 PM
How long ago was it that Crocop beat Choi?

Off The River
05-26-2009, 09:45 PM
Just a few months. They fought on New years eve I beleive. Choi goes into his MMA matches witha serious handicap. He is not allowed to throw knees

Dogman_Tony
05-26-2009, 10:03 PM
I think he was allowed knees versus Canseco--they kept talking about how Canseco should watch out for them, didn't they?

Off The River
05-26-2009, 10:42 PM
I dunno. I watched it in Korean. I know he was not allowed to use them vs Fedor or Cro Cop. I only assumed the same with Canseco.

diggity
05-26-2009, 10:47 PM
Why no knees?

Dogman_Tony
05-27-2009, 12:28 AM
I don't know. but the rule was NOT in effect for this fight, because Choi actually throws a knee at around the 53 second mark...

Off The River
05-27-2009, 05:42 AM
There is a rule somewhere that says if there is a certain size dicrepancy between fighters, then the larger fighter can't throw knees. I am quite certain that was the fact when he fought Fedor and I remember Cro Cop complaining about a knee.

Of course that was on New Years eve and before I gave up drinking!

Dogman_Tony
05-27-2009, 09:25 AM
I guess we'll never know then, huh? :) Well, at 6'4", Canseco must have exceeded the height limitation....

diggity
05-27-2009, 10:34 AM
I was thinking that as I watched the fight that Choi's knee would be right in Crocop's chin with minimal effort but that's a bullshit rule. Make a super heavy class if its that unfair.

Dogman_Tony
05-27-2009, 12:30 PM
It's not unfair. If Choi's knees were quicker, it might be, but they're not....

Did you see Mousassi fight? It wasn't much, but this guy's death to strikers and usually fights at middleweight. Love to see him and A. Silva go at it.

diggity
05-27-2009, 02:05 PM
Crocop still has one of the deadliest kicks in the business, if not the deadliest.

Dogman_Tony
05-27-2009, 03:06 PM
Haven't seen it in action in a while, tho...been a string of losses. I'm sure you're right, but it needs to reappear.

diggity
05-27-2009, 04:25 PM
I just watched a Crocop highlight flic on youtube the other day for the hell of it. It makes you remember real quick.

Dogman_Tony
05-27-2009, 04:39 PM
It's not that I don't remember--I do. just haven't seen it for a while. He might have made an interesting opponent for Machida...