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    1981: Muhammad Ali vs Joe Frazier IV

    What if Ali and Frazier had bypassed Berbick and Cummings and instead fought each other in a senior styles contest, ala Holmes/Bonecrusher II and Page/Witherspoon II?

    Honestly, it might have been...
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    Re: Larry Donald Is Back!!!

    At least a thread about the comeback of Larry Donald will clearly communicate to future generations why it was necessary for the Cyber Boxing Zone to kill off it's 'current scene' boxing forum.
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    Re: Larry Donald Is Back!!!

    This makes boxing better.
  4. Re: Book - Floyd Patterson - Fighting Life of Boxing's Invisible Champion

    I've found Baldwin's writing on Patterson in a book of uncollected essays. Does anyone know where Mailer's 'Ten Thousand Words a Minute', on Liston-Patterson, can be found? Can't find it in any of...
  5. Re: Book - Floyd Patterson - Fighting Life of Boxing's Invisible Champion

    I've heard about James Baldwin's writing on Floyd Patterson - is it part of any anthology? Where did you read it? Baldwin's talent was immense, I'd love to hear his take on Floyd.
  6. Re: Book - Floyd Patterson - Fighting Life of Boxing's Invisible Champion

    It was and IS Don, in King of the World - beautiful and mesmerising. Have you not read it?
  7. Re: Joe Calzaghe - Fighter of the Decade ???

    Pacman lifted the sport out of the gutter this decade.

    Mayweather did everything possible to bring it back there.

    Pacman fought everybody he could - Mayweather avoided his chief rivals and took...
  8. Re: Book - Floyd Patterson - Fighting Life of Boxing's Invisible Champion

    Are there any good books on Patterson? There's seems to have been several since his death, all by people who weren't around him and didn't know him. They seem like cash-ins. The best writing on...
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    Re: Price V Thompson in Feb 2013

    I think Haye would probably do to Price what he did to Enzo Maccarinelli. These big guys always seem to freeze with a little guy with fast hands and KO power moving around them. Perfect antidote to...
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    Re: Price V Thompson in Feb 2013

    In the unlikely event Thompson hits back we might find out about Price's chin. Otherwise it will be a KO1 or 2. I like the thinking here - get Thompson out of there quicker than Wlad managed.
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    Re: Amir Khan stops Carlos Molina

    Jorge Silva gave him a hard night's work. Like Molina in the main event, he was matched tough against a man much bigger than him. Silva seemed to stun Angulo a couple of times, whereas Angulo never...
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    Re: Groves secures Johnson victory

    Do you think DeGale is slippy? Every time I see him fight he's going 12 rds and getting quite badly bruised and marked up by men Froch would break in half. I don't think Froch is great by any...
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    Re: Groves secures Johnson victory

    Actually, Froch said he could whack Groves and 'DeGale' and I agree with him. He could knock them both out in one night.
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    Re: Amir Khan stops Carlos Molina

    Showtime in the US. Not sure about the UK. And yes they might just be swollen - fighter's teams do tend to exaggerate injuries to make their guy sound greater.
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    Re: Pac v. Marquez 4

    We have our own modern day Walcott/Charles, Robinson/LaMotta, Robinson/Fullmer etc, v exciting. I bet the 5th fight goes the distance. This looks a one off.
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    Re: Amir Khan stops Carlos Molina

    OUCH! That explains why it became quite tedious in the second half. Those hands look very painful. I've had that myself, it's very unpleasant, so Amir has my sympathy.

    I remember the King of the...
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    Re: Amir Khan stops Carlos Molina

    How do you think he will do against Garcia, Walshy? I can't see what could be any different a second time around.
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    Re: Groves secures Johnson victory

    Depressing to watch. Johnson was the much more competent, technically proficient boxer but he was just too old. Still tough as nails. The beating Groves would have taken from Johnson 3 or 4 years ago...
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    Re: Amir Khan stops Carlos Molina

    Khan was still the same old Khan, trying to force a knockout, taking punches. He was lucky he wasn't in with a hitter again.

    He still seems delusional. "When I hit guys clean, they go down" - so...
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    Re: Jinkee Pacquiao: Manny should quit

    Mayweather and Pacman both seemed to be destined for sad parallel destitute endings. I wonder how Marquez is with his money?
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    Re: Pac v. Marquez 4

    The heavyweights will never be strong again. It's over.
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    Re: Pac v. Marquez 4

    Walsh you're in denial!

    It's a hardcore minority sport now.
  23. Re: Khan on the defensive against Molina

    Seems like an easy rehab opponent for Khan, which is fair enough after back-to-back losses. I'm skeptical as to whether a fighter can change that much after this long, but will be interesting to see...
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    Re: Andrew Golota vs Ike Ibeabuchi

    I feel like I just got hit in the balls by Golota!
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    Re: Pac v. Marquez 4

    ...and all the world title belts, super world title belts, interim world title belts, 3 separate men being the co-champions in one division of one sanctioning body, the wilful serving up of beaten...
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