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    Rodolfo, sorry to hear about your friend. I may have known him to see him but I can't place the name. Boxing certainly can't afford to lose the good guys and that's what Rusty sounded like. My condolences, amigo.

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    Dan---

    Yes, you did meet Rusty. He and his wife, Jenny made the special effort to travel from Palm Springs to my induction into the WBHOF. He was at my receptiion that was hosted by my attorney in his hotel suite. Do you remember the man sitting in the back of the room in a wheel chair who had lost his legs? That was Rusty. He was a very giving person, especially to the sport of boxing. I visited him in the hospital both times when he lost each leg. We were good friends and before his physical problems we played golf together many times, even in the rain. Barbara and I visited Rusty and Jenny several times in the last few years. We will be attending his memorial services on March 2nd.

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    Rodolfo, yes, I remember him. My Pops, Rick, Rudy and I were over by the window talking to him. He was very knowlegable in the sport. Wasn't he a retired police officer? I don't know why that's sticking in my head.

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    Dan---

    You have a good memory. Rusty had been a police officer for many years in Benning, CA. That is where I met him at one of his boxing shows for the local kids. My Uncle Felix (who wasn't my real uncle but became my adopted uncle because of all the help he gave me when I was being taken advantage of by managers) was the person who introduced me to Rusty. I would go to help Rusty at his shows from time to time. I remember the time that I got a call back in the early 90's from Jenny who at the time was Rusty's girl friend. She asked if I could come to be with Rusty at the hospital because he was having to have a leg amputated. Of course, I went to be with him.. Then a few months later she called again to tell me the same had to be done to his other leg. Again I went there. It was sad to see him in that condition. But the good news is that a number of months later Rusty himself called me to tell me I had to come over again because he and Jenny were getting married and they wanted me to be at their wedding. He was in his wheel chair but he looked like a new man. It was a very happy occasion.

    Peter---

    I have tried so many times to get into the Yahoo thread. I even tried to register again but they tell me El Gato is taken. Help!!!

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    El Gato -- sorry for taking so long to post! Please e-mail me at peterleelaw@yahoo.com with your number and I'll give you a call so we can work out that bug!

    Take care my friend,

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    Rodolfo, how you doing, dude? Just wanted to drop you a line with a couple of questions. I was going over some very old 'parchments' and came across a couple of things I didn't know. First, it appears that in 1970 Don Chargin was trying to set up an elimination tournament of his own with the winner to get a crack at the lightweight title. He planned on having the winner of the first Ruben Navarro-Jimmy Robertson fight (won by Navarro on a 5th round TKO) go up against the winner of the Rodolfo Gonzalez-Fermin Soto fight(won by yourself on an 7th round TKO). This apeared to be true as both fights took place within a brief period of themselves and were promoted and fought at the Olympic. You did eventually fight Navarro, but not until 2 years later. Do you have any recollection of this or what happened that scuttled a 1970 meeting?

    Secondly, Mando Ramos was actually supposed to fight Pedro Carrasco a 4th time but opted to take on Chango Carmona after 3 fights with the Spaniard. The mandatory was thrown to Carmona but Carrasco's people balked at the purse offer, which was then accepted by Jackie McCoy representing you. Roberto Duque, the president of the Spanish boxing federation threatened a walkout of the WBC unless Carrasco got the title shot. I guess tempers were appeased when Carrasco was offered another role as mandatory challenger which fell to you after you stopped Carmona. However, as we had previously discussed on this thread, even with a signed contract as mandatory challenger, Carrasco chose retirement rather than face you. Man, there was alot of stuff going on behind the lines at this time. Do you remember any of this?

    Dan

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    Peter---

    Did you get my e-mail with my phone numbers? I am concerned because I haven't heard from you yet. I have tried again to get into the yahoo site but no luck.

    Dan---

    That is interesting information that you found. This is the first time I ever heard about Don Chargin and the elimination tournament. You are correct that alot of things went on behind closed doors. I do remember Jacky and I discussing a fight with Pedro Carrasco and I told him that I would go anywhere to fight him in those days. Finally, in 1972 when it was mandatory for us to fight each other, he chose to retire. From what I have been told, his health was starting to deteriorate. I don't recall the exact year that he died, but apparently he had been struggling with cancer for some time. He was a good fighter. May he rest in peace.

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    Pedro passed away january 27, 2001 at age 57.

    Pedro Carrasco

    Birth Name Pedro Eduardo Carrasco
    Country Spanish
    Birthplace Huelva
    Division Lightweight
    Born 1943-07-11
    Died 2001-01-27
    Manager Umberto Branchini


    Career Record www.boxrec.com

    Date Opponent Location Result
    1962-10-24 Carlo Leggenda Imola, Italy W TKO 2
    1962-11-27 Domenico Pillon Turin, Italy W TKO 4
    1963-01-09 Franco Rosini Milan, Italy W PTS 6
    1963-01-30 Tristano Tartarini Milan, Italy W PTS 6
    1963-02-22 Emilio Riccetti Milan, Italy W PTS 6
    1963-03-29 Pietro Ziino Milan, Italy W PTS 4
    1963-03-29 Luciano Lambertini Milan, Italy W PTS 4
    1963-05-10 Franco Rosini Turin, Italy D PTS 6
    1963-05-27 Franco Rosini Modena, Italy W PTS 6
    1963-08-02 Juan Carbajal Barcelona, Spain W PTS 6
    1963-08-24 Juan Pinto Barcelona, Spain W PTS 8
    1964-02-07 Giuseppe Amante Milan, Italy W PTS 8
    1964-02-29 Angel Rodriguez Aguado Bilbao, Spain W PTS 8
    1964-03-11 Aldo Pravisani Rome, Italy L PTS 8
    1964-04-22 Giuliano Scatolini Milan, Italy W TKO 4
    1964-05-16 Teresito Colombo Gallarate, Italy W PTS 6
    1964-06-28 Serafino Lucherini St. Vincent, Italy W PTS 8
    1964-07-06 Fortunato Munzone St. Angelo Lodigiano, Ita W TKO 6
    1964-07-18 Giancarlo Stelutti Falconara, Italy W TKO 5
    1964-08-14 Tristano Tartarini Falconara, Italy W PTS 6
    1964-09-19 Cosimo Lacirignola Milan, Italy W PTS 8
    1964-10-16 Aldo Pravisani Turin, Italy W PTS 8
    1964-11-26 Pedro Gomez Acebo Barcelona, Spain W PTS 8
    1964-12-10 Mohammed Laroussi Basel, Switzerland W KO 3
    1964-12-23 Miguel Kimbo Calderin Barcelona, Spain W PTS 8
    1965-02-04 Juan Pinto Barcelona, Spain W PTS 8
    1965-02-17 Vincenzo Pitardi Turin, Italy W PTS 8
    1965-06-28 Lat Shonibare Naples, Italy W TKO 4
    1965-07-09 Cosimo Lacirignola Bergamo, Italy W TKO 4
    1965-08-28 Serafino Lucherini Gubbio, Italy W TKO 7
    1965-09-18 Mario Oberti Varese, Italy W TKO 7
    1965-10-30 Pedro Gomez Acebo Como, Italy W PTS 8
    1965-12-13 Rene Roque Milan, Italy W PTS 8
    1966-01-20 Roger Younsy Barcelona, Spain W KO 1
    1966-02-03 Serafino Lucherini Barcelona, Spain W PTS 8
    1966-02-17 Georges Payen Barcelona, Spain W KO 4
    1966-03-03 Pierre Tirlo Barcelona, Spain W TKO 8
    1966-03-12 Ameur Lamine Barcelona, Spain W PTS 8
    1966-03-31 Mario Oberti Barcelona, Spain W PTS 8
    1966-05-13 Emilio Riccetti Madrid, Spain W PTS 10
    1966-05-26 Quintino Soarez Barcelona, Spain W TKO 6
    1966-06-03 Victor Alves Madrid, Spain W KO 3
    1966-06-10 Dris Ben Amar Madrid, Spain W TKO 3
    1966-06-17 Karl Furcht Barcelona, Spain W KO 3
    1966-06-28 Victor Derceira Valencia, Spain W TKO 5
    1966-07-08 Ricardo Navarro Madrid, Spain W KO 3
    1966-07-17 Manuel Prieto Samperio Valencia, Spain W PTS 10
    1966-08-05 Pedro Gomez Acebo Madrid, Spain W TKO 3
    1966-08-13 Joaquin Martin Valencia, Spain W TKO 5
    1966-09-02 Antonio Falcon Madrid, Spain W TKO 2
    1966-09-09 Boualem Belouard Madrid, Spain W TKO 3
    1966-09-22 Daniel Deneux Barcelona, Spain W TKO 6
    1966-10-07 Roy Ate Madrid, Spain W TKO 3
    1967-04-08 Benito Gallardo Salamanca, Spain W TKO 5
    1967-04-29 Abdel Bachir Seville, Spain W KO 3
    1967-05-13 Angel Neches Salamanca, Spain W PTS 8
    1967-06-02 Jesse Green Madrid, Spain W TKO 3
    1967-06-30 Borge Krogh Madrid, Spain W TKO 8
    EBU (European) Lightweight Title
    1967-12-01 Aldo Pravisani Madrid, Spain W PTS 10
    1967-12-16 Hector Omar Oliva Bilbao, Spain W TKO 4
    1967-12-22 Franco Brondi Madrid, Spain W TKO 4
    1968-02-03 Paul Rourre Las Palmas, Spain W TKO 4
    1968-03-09 Eduardo Batista Santa Cruz, Tenerife, Spa W TKO 4
    1968-03-19 Giampiero Salami Valencia, Spain W TKO 4
    1968-04-07 Enrique Levy Huelva, Spain W TKO 4
    1968-05-10 Kid Tano Madrid, Spain W KO 8
    EBU (European) Lightweight Title
    1968-07-20 Jose Luis Penteado Vigo, Spain W TKO 3
    1968-07-31 Serafino Lucherini Valencia, Spain W PTS 10
    1968-08-10 Valerio Nunez Valadolid, Spain W TKO 3
    1968-09-13 Bruno Melissano Barcelona, Spain W TKO 3
    EBU (European) Lightweight Title
    1968-10-18 Olli Maeki Valencia, Spain W PTS 15
    EBU (European) Lightweight Title
    1968-11-16 Kid Rainbow Vigo, Spain W KO 3
    1968-12-06 Al Rocca Barcelona, Spain W TKO 3
    1969-01-02 Jose Luis Penteado Copenhagen, Denmark W DQ 4
    1969-03-06 Tore Magnussen Barcelona, Spain W KO 3
    EBU (European) Lightweight Title
    1969-03-29 Ould Makloufi Malaga, Spain W KO 6
    1969-04-30 Klaus Jacoby Barcelona, Spain W KO 2
    1969-06-14 Miguel Velasquez Madrid, Spain W PTS 15
    EBU (European) Lightweight Title
    1969-07-24 Paul Rourre Villafranca, Spain W TKO 6
    1969-08-06 Massimo Consolati Bilbao, Spain W TKO 5
    1969-09-10 Angel Robinson Garcia Bilbao, Spain W PTS 10
    1969-09-27 Paul Rourre Valencia, Spain W TKO 9
    1969-10-24 Victor Baerga Vigo, Spain W TKO 4
    1969-11-06 Bill Whittenburg Madrid, Spain W TKO 5
    1969-11-22 Giampiero Salami Rome, Italy W TKO 6
    1969-12-20 Vic Andreetti Madrid, Spain W TKO 10
    1969-12-30 Dino Del Cid Barcelona, Spain W DQ 2
    1970-01-15 Massimo Consolati Las Palmas, Tenerife, Spa W TKO 3
    1970-01-29 Jake Gulino Madrid, Spain W TKO 6
    1970-02-19 Dave Wyatt Barcelona, Spain W TKO 3
    1970-03-05 Jose Luis Vallejo Bilbao, Spain W TKO 2
    1970-03-18 Lakdar El Harizi Valencia, Spain W KO 6
    1970-05-23 Jose Jaime Marques Madrid, Spain W KO 2
    1970-06-13 Carlos Almeida Almeria, Spain W TKO 5
    1970-06-26 Jean Pierre Le Jaouen Madrid, Spain W TKO 6
    1970-08-22 Olli Maeki Valencia, Spain W PTS 10
    1970-09-03 Thomas Matthews Madrid, Spain W TKO 2
    1970-11-21 Joe Tetteh Barcelona, Spain D PTS 10
    1970-12-26 Joe Tetteh Madrid, Spain W PTS 10
    1971-02-19 Pietro Vargellini Madrid, Spain W TKO 5
    1971-04-17 Jake Gulino Milan, Italy W KO 9
    1971-05-21 Rene Roque Madrid, Spain W PTS 15
    EBU (European) Light Welterweight Title
    1971-06-18 David Pesenti Barcelona, Spain W DQ 10
    1971-07-08 Klaus Jacoby Zaragoza, Spain W KO 3
    1971-07-30 Bruno Meggiolaro Madrid, Spain W PTS 10
    1971-09-10 Jerry Wells Bilbao, Spain W TKO 5
    1971-11-05 Mando Ramos Madrid, Spain W DQ 12
    Vacant WBC Lightweight Title
    1972-02-18 Mando Ramos Los Angeles, CA, USA L SD 15
    WBC Lightweight Title
    1972-06-28 Mando Ramos Madrid, Spain L SD 15
    WBC Lightweight Title
    1972-09-22 Enrico Barlatti Barcelona, Spain W TKO 4
    1972-12-01 Beau Jaynes Madrid, Spain W TKO 6

    Record to Date
    Won 106 (KOs 66) Lost 3 Drawn 2 Total 111

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    Dan---

    Thank you for posting Pedro Carrasco's fight record. That is very impressive. He won 106 fights and only lost 3, and 2 of those were to Mando Ramos, both in 1972. Maybe because I beat Carmona who beat Mando Ramos, he decided not to take the fight, thinking he might lose that one too. I guess it was not illness like I had been told that caused him to retire. He probably just wanted to retire after so many fights. I didn't realize that almost all of his fights were in Spain or Italy with just one in Switzerland, one in Denmark and the one with Mando in Los Angeles. His death came at an early age, only 57 years old. Even though we never met, I remember seeing a picture of him and thinking that he looked so much like the actor, Bob Conrad.

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    Mario---

    Welcome to my thread. I only have a little bit of information for you right now regarding you dad's uncle, Johnny Ortega. My record book says that he fought Jose Becerra on June 15, 1957 at the Cow Palace in San Francisco. Jose won by KO in the 4th round. I was in Guadalajara, about 11 years old at that time, and was not aware of this fight. Perhaps some of the boxing fans who read this thread have information for you. I have a number of contacts, some in San Francicso, including a former boxing commissioner who may have information about Johnny. I will e-mail you when I locate the numbers for these people.

    El Gato
    El Gato -
    Hi this is Mario again. I was wondering if you had the chance to get in contact with your contacts in San Francisco who may have info on Johnny Ortega. Hope everything is well, thanks again.
    -mario

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodolfo Gato Gonzalez
    Dan---

    Thank you for posting Pedro Carrasco's fight record. That is very impressive. He won 106 fights and only lost 3, and 2 of those were to Mando Ramos, both in 1972. Maybe because I beat Carmona who beat Mando Ramos, he decided not to take the fight, thinking he might lose that one too. I guess it was not illness like I had been told that caused him to retire. He probably just wanted to retire after so many fights. I didn't realize that almost all of his fights were in Spain or Italy with just one in Switzerland, one in Denmark and the one with Mando in Los Angeles. His death came at an early age, only 57 years old. Even though we never met, I remember seeing a picture of him and thinking that he looked so much like the actor, Bob Conrad.

    El Gato
    Here is a photo of Pedro. He does look a little like Bob Conrad.

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    Mario---

    It's nice to hear from you again. As a matter of fact, I just recently spoke to two of the biggest boxing promoters of that era--Don Frazer and Don Chargin. Both knew your uncle. Don Frazer saw him fight a few times and helped me by referring me to Don Chargin. Chargin said that Johnny Ortega fought several times for his boxing promotions and commented that he was a good little fighter, a very promising flyweight. He said that most of the people who dealt with Jphnny are gone now. However, he is going to try to gather some articles and whatever he can find about him. He will let me know if he can locate some things.

    Dan1213 (not Dan Hanley)---

    Thank you so much for posting Pedro Carrasco's picture. Now everyone can see what he looked like in those years.

    Everyone---

    I hope you all are enjoying better weather around the country. Can you believe we had 90 degree weather here today in southern California? It was a beautiful day.

    El Gato

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    Here is Bob Conrad when he was working out at the CBS Stage 14 Gym on the Studio City, CA lot in 1968 under Ralph Gambino.


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    Gato, here is an interview with Pedro Carrasco that appeared in Boxing Illustrated in June 1967 that may be of interest.






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    Guys, just want to let you know El Gato's been having real problems logging on for some reason. He's trying to get this sussed out, then he'll be back on the air, hopefully soon.

    Dan

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    Hello Everyone---

    I am finally "back on the air". It has taken a long time to resolve my log in problem on the CBZ. But now it is working. I am thankful to GorDom for his assistance in this matter. Also thanks to Dan.It has been difficult for me wanting to share boxing news with all of you and not being able to write on my thread.

    Dan1213---

    Thank you for posting Pedro Carrasco's articles with pictures of his boxing days. It makes my thread come alive to many of the readers. They are very interesting.

    Other news---
    Barbara and I attended the a special Night of Champions at Ken Thompson Boxing Promotions in Ananheim, CA at the Doubletree Hotel a couple of weeks ago. This event is to be an annual event and was the first one put on by Ken Thompson. Ken is such a great person who does so much for the sport of boxing. A cocktail hour and first class dinner was served preceeding the excellent boxing show. Many young outstanding boxers were honored. The only oldtimers who were honored were Ken Norton and myself. We both received the "Night of Champions Lifetime Achievement Award".

    Another event---
    Last Saturday we were invited to another event in Hemet, CA. It was a Fiesta at the historic Ramona Bowl where the World Boxing Hall of Fame had a both set up which was sponsored by Gosch Auto Group. It was hosted by Richard Perry who is also a member of the World Boxing Hall of Fame. Mando Ramos and myself were the only champions there to sign autographs and to pose for pictures. We had taken some of our old boxing photos and Mando took his belt for display. Mando's wife, Sylvia and Barbara were there with us. We were all treated to a great Mexican lunch at a very nice Mexican restaurant before we were shuttled to the Fiesta. It was a wonderful afternoon. When we returned to the car dealership to pick up our cars, they had detailed our cars and filled them up with gas for our trip home. It was great to be with Mando again, to be able spend so much time with him and talk about the good old days. We had a good laugh over his first professional fight against Berlin Roberts at the Olympic Auditorium. I attended that fight and remember how nervous he was in the beginning. He said that after he got hit in the face in the first round, it made him so angry that he forgot about being nervous and went after Roberts and beat him up pretty bad and won the fight.
    Our special thanks to Richard Perry and to all those who made this event so enjoyable for us.

    El Gato

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    Rodolfo, great to see your live and on the air once again. Y'know, last night I was watching the Juan Diaz-Acelino Freitas fight and when listening to Diaz' post fight interview the question came up whom he wanted to fight most. Although Diaz is champ and I've been watching him fight since his fight with John Bailey, he really is an unknown commodity outside us die-hards. Anyhow he was asked the question as if he was an up and coming kid rather than champ. I was thinking when you were up and coming did you follow the sport? I mean read about who was in your weight class, examine the styles and wish to fight another fighter who would elevate your status? I would figure Mando Ramos since he had the pop star status and you both were from Long Beach, but were there any others who you were trying desperately to get a fight with when you were still up and coming?

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    Dan---

    I am propably an oddity in the world of boxing. I never went to many fights but only watched some on TV. I did not follow the sport. I was only interested in fighters I could learn from such as "Mantequilla" Napoles. Another one was Kid Anahua. I was his sparring partner from whom I learned part of my style. The other one I learned my style from was Jose Becerra. Other than that I didn't have much interest in watching other fighters because it didn't really matter to me who I was fighting just so they would put me in the ring with someone. As you know, many times I was told I was fighting just a 4 round fighter so to me that's all I knew. All this occurred in Mexico. When I came to the United States I already had my style and combinations developed. I felt I was ready to fight anybody. So to answer your question, I guess I could say the only person I ever watched was Chango Carmona and that was only for one round. That's all it took for me and Jacky McCoy to spot his weaknesses. I never watched any of my other opponents. I only wanted to get close to the Champion whoever he was so that I could fight him. As for Mando Ramos he was my stable mate and so I could not fight him. However, I did challenge other champions before Jacky McCoy was my manger but my other managers could not get me the fights. I never did watch those fighters fight, although I did hear their fights on the radio. The other managers did not have the connections. I was without a fight for almost 15 months because nobody would give me a fight. I was about to hang up my gloves a few times. That was between July 19, 1967 and October 3, 1968. That might have been because on July 19, 1967 when I fought Claudio Adame was the fight when my glove exploded. All I really cared about was getting to the top to fight the Champion of the World---no matter what it took. There were other great fighters in my division that I heard about from time to time such as Carlos Ortiz, Ismael Laguna, Joe Brown, and Teo Cruz. Even though I was ranked #7 in the world I was never picked to fight them. The way it works is that the Champion has 90 days by law to defend the title against the #1 contender. However, within those 90 days his manager will get him a fight with who they think is the easiest fight within the top 10 contenders to make extra money. I was never picked. When I got the opportunity to fight Camona for the Lightweight Champion of the World, my youth was already gone and I was in the last days of my career but Thank God that I got the opportunity and they said yes to the fight.

    El Gato

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    Dan---

    I am writing again to test my thread. I wrote an answer to your post of April 29. My answer was also written on the 29th. It went in on the message page but it somehow did not record on the Message Board main page so it looks like you were the last one to write.

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    El Gato!

    I hope you are doing well. I've sent a few e-mails through but I think we're both having problems in that department -- can you try me at peterleelaw@yahoo.com? Thanks!

    Take care!

    -Peter

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    Peter---

    I sent you an e-mail. I hope you got it. I included my phone number so whenever you have the time you can give me a call and we can straighten out the yahoo problem. I'd also like to know what's going on in Canada in the boxing world. Maybe some of our readers would like to hear some news from Canada too.

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    El Gato! I received your e-mail -- it made my day! I'm a stay-at-home dad these days and, though I love the new baby and all, it's always amazing to hear from one of my idols!

    Well if I can talk about Canadian boxing for a moment -- --I'm quite excited about going to my first title fight in July. Steve Molitor, the IBF Super-Bantam Champ, will be defending his title at the Rama Casino in Orillia, Ontario, which isn't far from where I live. I'm a real "paper" boxing fan -- growing up in a small town in Canada, with no cable or live cards, I read everything I could about boxing from the age of 15. OK -- I've never actually seen a live pro card!!!!! Isn't that terrible? I'll make up for it now -- Toronto isn't thriving, but Montreal seems to have cards every week or so.

    Ooooh -- I am also going down with a "crew" to the IBHOF inductions -- plan on doing some scouting work for our "Gato in the Hall" Group... And of course, I want to go to the WBHOF inductions next year to meet up with you and the West Coast fan faction -- that's a harder sell to the wife -- you don't have a spare room do you El Gato?

    -Peter

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    Rodolfo, I heard that David Martinez resigned for personal reasons from the WBHF. He stated in his letter that his most cherished moments was being the presenter to Rodolfo Gonzalez, Ernie Terrell and Eddie Perkins for induction to the Hall of Fame. I remember the first time I met him he actually showed me a photo copy of his ballot to show me that he voted for you in 2003, Good guy, I believe he'll be missed.

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    Dan---

    I am so sorry to hear that David Martinez has resigned from the WBHF. He was a valuable board member and I was so honored that he was the person who presented me with my medal and my trophy on my special induction night. I will always remember him for that. I hope he will still be at the Hall of Fame activities.

    I talked with Rick Farris today and he told me he wants to campaign to get Efren "Alacran" Torres inducted into the WBHF. Did we report on my thread that Rick Farris is a new member of the board of the WBHF??? I'm sure he will be a great asset. I wonder if Dan Hanley had anything to do with this??? The two of you will shape things up. Also did we mention that Aldofo Perez is the new Hall of Fame president? For those of you that don't know who he is, he used to be the owner/publisher of the Mexican boxing magazine, Ring Mundial.

    El Gato

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    Rodolfo, are you familiar with a fighter named Terry Sater? I found an old article that actually had the two of you scheduled to fight, but for some reason Rene Macias was substituted. Do you recall this? He seemed to be a decent fighter and was coming off a 10 round win over an old victim of yours, Marcello Cid, when you two were scheduled to fight. Any info you have on what happened or he as a fighter?

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    Dan---

    That is very strange information. I never heard of Terry Sater. The facts are that I fought Marcello Cid in Feb. of 1967 and almost two years later in Dec. of 1968 was when I fought Rene Macias. Nobody ever told me he was a substitute for Sater. All I was told was that I was fighting Macias about three weeks before the fight. The fight previous to this fight was Oct. 3 with Ray Adigun and this fight was scheduled only two weeks in advance. Also at this time of my boxing career I hadn't had a fight in over a year because my managers couldn't get me a fight. Don't ask me why. In the year of 1967 I only had 3 fights in the whole year and in 1968 I only had 2 fights. It was very discouraging. It doesn't make sense that they would have scheduled a fight for me with someone and then decided on a substitute and not told me.

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    Perhaps it was simply the publicity end of a fight promotion that would get things wrong. I have also seen TV dates with you scheduled to fight Len Kesey and Lovelle Franklin, both which neither took place. So maybe it was bad info from the Olympic to TV guide.

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    Dan---

    I heard of Len Kesey and Lovelle Franklin, but I never saw either of them fight. I was never told that I was going to be fighting them. I don't have a clue where this information came from. The Olympic knew more that I did. Or else it was like you said, a publicity problem.

    The only thing I was aware of during this time was that I was scheduled to fight Pete Gonzalez at the Olympic. And one week before the fight I bumped into Ruben Navarro and we shook hands but we had never met before. He asked me who I was fighting next? I didn't understand what he asked with my limited English. I thought he asked me what my name was, so I answered Rodolfo Gonzalez. His eyebrows raised up and he said that I better not get in the ring with that guy. He is bad news. Of course, we got the situation straightered out and had a good laugh over it.

    El Gato

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    Speaking of which, I must complement you on your command of English in your writings. How did this come about?

    Yeah, that's a funny story. Your reputation preceeded you like some old western gunslinger.

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    Roberto---

    Thank you for posting on my thread. I appreciate your compliment on my English. Actually, Barbara is my writer so that things come out right. We discuss what I want to say and have a good time talking and remembering the good old days. We have only known each other for about nine years so this way she has learned alot about me. Also I have learned alot about her life because she tells me what she was doing during those years.A very different life style, living in Hawaii all those years.

    I had to laugh about your comment comparing me to an old Western gunslinger. Last year I was just that. I was invited to Tombstone, AZ to take part in the filming of a vacation in America of my last opponent, Ishimatsu "Guts" Suzuki, who took the title from me in Tokyo. It was arranged by Japanese Television as a surprise for him. I was dressed up as a gunfighter and entered the famous bar, BIG NOSE KATE SALOON, looking for Suzuki. When I saw him at a table with his family, I approached him and the fun started. He didn't recognize me at first but I had a dialog to follow and there were translators at the table. It was a very emotional reunion for us after about 32 years. Barbara and I were treated to a wonderful couple of days with his family and about 50 people, mostly from Japan. His trip around America took about a month and it was later shown on TV in Japan. They were so kind to send us a copy of the film. It was very special.

    El Gato

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