Very interesting-- thanks!Originally Posted by Elmer Raymr.E,
thank you for sharing that outstanding info. i have heard of it before, but I don't believe it. ill tell u why
walcott was a bit inconsistent, especially in non title fights. walcott showed up to the layne fight overweight(over 200lb), overconfident(layne 4 to 1 underdog), and it was a simply case of walcott taking a young unproven prospect lightly and layne upset walcott.
i have the layne-walcott fight on tape, layne looks better on film in this fight than some of his later fights in the 1950s. layne was very strong, and he simply bulled walcott to the ropes the entire fight, and outworked walcott. layne displayed some very solid inside fighting doing more damage. walcott did not display enough aggresion. the fight was basically even going into the 10th, and thats where layne had a blistering final round outworking and outphysicaling walcott. walcott did not bring his A game and did not show up in the best of shape, but it was layne who made him pay the price. layne at the time was considered a a hard hitting slugger and a good undefeated prospect but that layne was a bit crude and did not have enough experience and was being overmatched in the walcott fight. layne went into the ring at a 4 to 1 underdog. it was a big upset and layne proved he was a very dangerous challenger that couldnt be taken lightly by anyone. I have no doubt walcott would have won the rematch. and remember, this was layne in 1950 at his peak. not the layne post 1951 that went on to lose a lot because he was ruined after suffering brutal back to back KO losses to marciano and charles.
heres the reason why walcott got a 3rd title shot and it comes from a man who was close with ezzard charles and was at the boxing scene in the 1950s:
"it comes direct from inside the charles camp. jake mintz had been shoehorned into the charles management circles by forces who squeezed the original "owners" mostly out. ezzard liked to keep busy but there was no fight scheduled right at this time. suddenly jake mintz said he ...unilaterally....had virtually scheduled one more with walcott. said jersey joe would like to retire and it would be nice to get him one more good purse. my source said this was crazy...that you don't fight a guy like that three times. but...as ezzard agreed ...give walcott a purse and then go on to the other contenders....the match was made. then...someone from the walcott camp contacted the charles people to thank mintz for the $10,000 fee he's asked for for making the match. my contact said the other charles people yelled...they knew nothing about any $10,000 "fee"...and it was obvious that jake had pulled a fast one...but by now their influence was gone."
he also believes that layne-walcott was not a fix.
the charles fight was a sketchy hometown decision where jack dempsey(a good friend of laynes from his hometown) scored the fight. dempsey scored it in rounds 2-1 layne with 7 even rounds. a bit sketchky if u ask me. the new york times reported they thought charles won and had it 6 rounds to 4 charles. others reported they thought charles won but they all thought it was close. layne brought his A game for this fight, and charles took him lightly considering what charles did to him in 51. layne made him pay the price this time, but still charles most likely did enough to win. the fight was in laynes hometown, the ref was laynes friend, and the only judge was a good friend of laynes who had a sketchky scorecard. also, this loss did nothing to help charles(who was coming off a decision loss to walcott), and this win did nothing for layne to earn him a title shot so i hardly suspect it was a 'fix'.
poster john garfield who wrote articles on this site was around during the boxing scene in the 1950s.
heres what john garfield had to say about layne
"Throw out the record book on Layne, he was a rugged brawler with a quick, very heavy right. As he got shopworn and discouraged, more and more, he got outworked and beaten down.
But, when he first raged out of Utah -- full of piss and vinegar -- he'd have been a handful for anybody. He could crack with that right."
- i would have liked to see layne in his prime take on baker, valdes.