Why Sugar Ray Robinson is overrated.

[walshb]

Robinson cleans out 168 too.

That's only because Toney isn't there anymore

[greek1237]

Dont think Robinson stop Pavlik in 2 rounds, I give Kelly about 7 rounds imo.

At the very least 5.

[hawk5ins]

If Robby has Pavlik where Taylor had him, and in the second round, Ray finishes the job.

No Folly here.

Side note: I'm pretty sure that my posts in 105 and 107 did illustrated me backing off of "25 pounds" point re Greb and Robby.

Post 105 was primarily due to the respect I have for Surfbat and his pointing out some information.

Of course me continuing this much further with YOU, will only result in me me being:

"Snarky Hawk"

So I am letting it go.

un-Snarky Hawk

[JLP 6]

Excuse me?

Snarky Hawk???

What is that?

[hawk5ins]

betweeen a Landshark and an jaded Rams fan who lived too many years near Boston.

It's more of a local New England terminology that is rarely applied to any ONE individual, except under very special and unusual circumstances.

Certainly, it is bound to confuse many, given it's origin.

Hawk

[greek1237]

If Robby has Pavlik where Taylor had him, and in the second round, Ray finishes the job.

No Folly here.

Side note: I'm pretty sure that my posts in 105 and 107 did illustrated me backing off of "25 pounds" point re Greb and Robby.

Post 105 was primarily due to the respect I have for Surfbat and his pointing out some information.

Of course me continuing this much further with YOU, will only result in me me being:

"Snarky Hawk"

So I am letting it go.

un-Snarky Hawk

Not real sure on that, there has been times Ray had a foe in trouble, went all out and failed to finish them.
I seen one bout, one of his last Welterweight battles, belive it was vs Fusari.
Well Robinson downs him in the 6th, and had Fusari hurt, Robinson of couse try to finish him, but failed in getting the ko over Fusair.

Think your underated Palivk's skills in recovering when hurt, he did a great job in recovering from the knock down and making Taylor miss the heavy bombs in the 2nd round.
Also think Kelly has a top chin imo.

[hawk5ins]

I think Robby is a much superior puncher and finisher, as well as an overall fighter, to that of Jermaine Taylor.

I think in the scenario we saw in the second round with Pavlik getting dropped and hurt very badly, a superior fighter would have been able to end the bout.

I think SRR in that same scenario finishes the job and ends it right there.

Just my opinion.

Hawk

[JLP 6]

Lest us not forget the one punch gilotine of Fullmer. Round 5. After Rays prime. 13 pounds over his prime weight.

Pavik is hurt = Pavlik done.

[prodigious1]

I just wanted to say I think when at his best, Luis Rodriguez can beat any welterweight ever. That includes Robinson and Leonard. He would give both of those guys pure Hell at least, IMO.

[PeteLeo]

It's more of a local New England terminology that is rarely applied to any ONE individual, except under very special and unusual circumstances.

Man, "snarky" is universal. PeteLeo.

[doomeddisciple]

Man, "snarky" is universal. PeteLeo.

Yep, Snarky Aussies too. Heard it in New Zealand from the cab driver a few weeks back too.

[hawk5ins]

of my bubble.

"It's all about me" Hawk

[bodyblow]

Robinson very famously carried Fusari because that bout was for charity he was trying to give the fans their moneys worth and make the films more watchable.

[greek1237]

For carrieding Fusari, Robinson sure GAVE him a beating.