Agreed on those points hags.
I'm not saying the guy was ever touted as the next long-time reigning champ, just that he was viewed as a legit threat to Wlad at the time because of Peter's path to that fight and even more so because of Wlad's weaknesses.
He wasn't just some fat nobody & posed a definite threat to Wlad back then.
Wlad doesn't get enough credit for Peter I. I agree. He was seriously hurt in the 10th and came on big in the last two.>>>>>
He survived because peter sucks/sucked and could not follow up. Peter at his best a slightly more skilled tank abbott of boxing.
Davyrall Williamson was outslicking Wlad, knocking him down and pasting him all over the ring when Wlad quit in his corner. Should of been a TKO win for Williamson,
Well Ali he ain't...
And, why the need to be so patronising in your posts? Bit strange. I only asked a simple quetion originally. You seem always to be quite angered, and your responses quite smarmy. Like it's life and death. Only a chat site we're on.
If Khan meets Morales and punches himself out then we can compare.
Last edited by walshb; 06-30-2011 at 01:22 PM.
I don't think Wlad loves boxing anymore. He has been champion for a long time. It looks to me he has loss that fire he use to have. He lives in Beverly hills for crying out loud. He also dated a movie star. He's done. Haye life depends on this fight. A loss and he'll become a joke. Haye hand speed and power spells real trouble for Wlad. Haye has to find his prefect range to land his power shots and not get tied up by Wlad. He's going to make Wlad work. Haye by 3 round KO.
Last edited by Theo Netherland; 06-30-2011 at 11:43 PM.
Haye doesnt really have any crossover appeal in the US. Not many know him. I was actually part of a charity function a few months ago where I donated a glove signed by David Haye. With over 400 people at this event not one bid was put on the glove as nobody knew who he was.
Forgive me if this has been posted but I have been very out of it ...
The fight is tomorrow night ( 7/2 ) in Germany ... is it airing in the US, if so where and what time ... ? I will try to avoid an event result from the likely earlier German time of event .. any feedback is appreciated ..
Given all the aborted attempts at making bouts between Haye and either Klitschko, I said that I would not get excited about this fight until both men stepped into the ring. Well it's near enough now to let the sense of anticipation grow:
LISTEN to a preview the bout on China Radio International (CRI) Sports with some contributions from me:
ARTICLE I composed on the bout geared towards what I understand is a large and growing body of fans in China:
I was surprised that after all his pre-fight verbosity against Haye's stablemate George Groves, James DeGale did not crawl across the ring, kiss his feet and take the next jet out of the UK when he lost. Haye's talked a lot and he better win as I can see no where for him to go if he suffers a devastating (non-controversial) loss...
Fight airs 7/2 at 4:45PM ET/1:45PM PT on HBO
Weights are in..
Klitschko 242.6, Haye 212.8
Weigh in video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-IezKRfLF8
Last edited by Kid Dynamite; 07-01-2011 at 11:20 AM.
Haye looks ripped, relaxed and ready to rumble!!!
Nice to see 2 HWs in shape
One of the best heavyweight title fight weigh ins I've seen in years. And Vitali looks like he wants to KILL Haye.
The first time we've seen two in-shape heavyweights contesting the heavyweight title since..... er....... Lewis/Tyson?
I'm very excited about this fight - if you cannot get up for THIS fight, with all the intangibles involved, you must be American or seriously jaded or both.
I honestly have no idea what Haye did to merit this sort of attention .. to me this is the biggest b.s. of a superfight ... in the HTH w Kellerman Klit was dead on when he praised Haye for talking himself into a big payday based on nothing but his mouth ... I imagine that since Wlad's chin is weak anything can happen but I'd be really surprised to see Haye do anything ... I se a one sided beating administered from Wlad but who knows ...
I agree. Haye has a chance but he has sloppy technique, a porous defense, and excels when guys come to him, which won't be happening in this fight. I favor Klitschko here by KO. Haye hasn't fought much at HW and I was not impressed with his fights vs Ruiz, Valuev, Harrison etc.
Not surprised that our English friends on the board are very excited though. Looking at the well-produced specials and media stories produced in the UK, the hype machine there is really out of control. Just remember you all thought Haye-Harrison was going to be a tear-up and it was one of the most boring 3 round fights in history.
The one positive I can see is that Haye has talked so much sh^& leading up to this, I can't imagine him at some point in this fight not going for broke. If he stinks out the joint he'll bear a mark of shame the rest of his life and he'll have to move out the UK pronto . . it will be Joe Bugner syndrome all over again (and poor Joe pre-Cooper wasn't even a talker like Haye, he was just the victim of bad timing)
Hope I'm wrong. What I'm really dreading will be all of the talk of Klitschko "establishing his place among the All-Time Greats" should he win, even though Haye simply promoted/slickly manouvred his way into this position and his name on a ledger shouldn't solidify anything . .
To bad that neither Joe Mesi or Tommy Morrison are around. Either one of those guys could be dangerous against Wlad. If Wlad gets by David Haye, Wlad vs. an in shape Arreola( I know. Arreola and in shape is asking for a lot. LOL)? Like I said before... someone please wake me up when one kayos one or both Klits. I dream to be Klit free.
That 4:45PM is absolutely the live broadcast correct???
I was neutral as to who wins, but seeing and hearing the effeminine fans from england screaming and acting like teenaged girls made me sick. What happened to the old fashioned gentlemanly manly englishman? Where did these jerks come from? The Klitchkos acted like men and didnt respond to that idiotic behavior. If this is what a liberated society produces I got to back off. Give me a Klitchko vic just to disapoint these goofs. BUT I always compare Wlad to Tommy Hearns. Great skills, lots of heart, but a glass chin. Anything can happen with dice like that.
I'd like to 'think' travelling British sports fans are NOT indicative of regular English men. They're a bunch of unintelligent, illiterate louts, primarily football fans with their lewd football chants, who travel for a piss up and scream very loudly for a boxer they probably in truth don't know much about -- absolutely NOTHING like rugby crowds, tennis crowds, athletics etc.
The German audience are such a classy type, suited up, sipping champagne, politely watching the fights, I absolutely shudder to think how these travelling thugs are going to represent us tonight -- I expect horrendous chants about Hitler, jeering the German national anthem, generally disgracing us as they always do with their Neanderthal ways. Very sad men, who probably don't have much of a life or career outside of their aggressive football fixation.