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    Donald Trump is losing it. God help us, the man might be serious

    Donald Trump is losing it

    God help us, the man might be serious

    BY ALEX PAREENE/Salon.com


    At first I thought it was clear that Mr. Donald Trump -- a television star famous for his "billionaire" character who makes a good living licensing his name after failing in the casino business -- was just pretending to run for president in order to drum up publicity for the new season of his reality show. But now I fear that his childish stubbornness might demand that he actually run for president. Or, at least, he must somehow convince all of his myriad doubters that he is serious. And that way lies madness.

    Because Donald Trump is patently ridiculous. He is obviously, transparently silly. This "campaign" has long since stopped being good publicity for "The Celebrity Apprentice." It's just rehashing ancient birther memes to growing howls of derision at this point. But Donald Trump cannot accept that he is a farcical figure.

    And so Trump is now scrawling complaints on blog posts someone printed out for him, and then mailing his scribblings, via the United States Postal Service, to Vanity Fair.

    What was at first a horrible example of the political press's forced credulity is now an increasingly amusing example of a good old-fashioned pile-on. Politico is mocking him, Bill O'Reilly is mocking him, the New York Daily News put him in clown makeup on the front page, and now media outlets are purposefully printing his snippy letters to the editor, unedited, in order to publicly embarrass him. This kind of thing gets to Mr. Trump. He is a very sensitive soul.

    Trump is giving every journalist in the country the opportunity to delve into his past financial troubles, his old political donations, his marriages, his horrid books, his failed business ventures, his defaulted loans -- everything that the viewers of "Celebrity Apprentice" and the purchasers of Trump-branded crap don't quite remember through the mists of time.

    This is Trump undoing the years of public image rehabilitation that allowed him to host a show -- on network TV, in prime time -- in which he hires and fires people to begin with. He's politicizing his straight-talking billionaire persona, and soon only Free Republic commenters will have him. There's money in being a right-wing folk hero, as Ollie North could tell you, but it's not Macy's national ad campaign money. General-interest celebrity "business" books surely come with fatter advances than vanity right-wing publishing books, even with all that Scaife money still sloshing around.

    But Trump pretended to be a Republican, and now he has to prove to every troll who ever mocked him that he's always been a Republican, and he's the best Republican. And so Donald's doing ridiculous interviews with the Christian Broadcasting Network about what he does with all of his Bibles.

    Trump: Well I get sent Bibles by a lot of people.

    Brody: Where are all those Bibles?

    Trump: Actually, we keep them at a certain place. A very nice place. But people send me Bibles. And you know it's very interesting. I get so much mail and because I'm in this incredible location in Manhattan you can't keep most of the mail you get.

    There's no way I would ever throw anything, to do anything negative to a Bible, so what we do is we keep all of the Bibles.

    I would have a fear of doing something other than very positive so actually I store them and keep them and sometimes give them away to other people but I do get sent a lot of Bibles and I like that. I think that's great.

    Donald Trump keeps his Bibles "at a certain place."

    This is no longer just a means by which to get on morning shows. We passed that bridge a while ago. This is a man desperately trying to prove his seriousness. Donald Trump isn't just a clown, he's a sad clown.

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    Re: Donald Trump is losing it. God help us, the man might be serious

    the established media is out to lunch on this...

    one may think the guy is coming from outfield, but its incorrect to think the field itself hasnt been altered. Much of the media lives an a insular pc leaning bubble & esp in re to current problems is really out of touch w/ the level of disgust not only at Pres Obama, but at both parties themselves.

    its been a long time since this nation has been as ripe as it is now for a non convential candidate, even moreso then when perot ran. Whether its under the republican party or as a 3rd party candidate, underestimating & discounting Trump could set one up for much folly.

    Trump is especially dangerous to Obama right now b/c his strengths lie in business & it is in that realm wh/ people seem to have the least amount of confidence w/ the President. furthermore, trump is taking a strong position against China, wh/ seems to be a sacred cow w/ all other politicians. This is striking a real chord w/ so may laid off workers in the MW & NE rustbelt, not to mention technology based service workers who have seen their jobs outsourced to China. Trump speaks w/ authority & balls on this issue & its ringing true w/ so many who've been screwed over w/ all the free trade policies of the last 20 years.

    lastly, a lot of people perceive both parties & the media as pc laden windbags w/ recycle bs solutions wh/ in reality mask a continuum of more global corp agenda or further increase in the size of govt. Trump's message as a non pc tough talking solution oriented businessman cuts right thru the gray static political pc speak so many are sick of.

    if the econ goes into a double dip recession (wh/ in reality would be a depression) by fall-next spring, & trump is truely serious & organized, a win for him is doable. IMO the republicans have no strong contender who can beat Pres Obama (sorry but Romney supported the same type of healthcare system & is perceived as a heartless corp type out of touch w/ the worker), thus Trump may very well be perceived as the clear option to rally behind.
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    Re: Donald Trump is losing it. God help us, the man might be serious

    Trump is NOT a politician, he's a fucking joke & he's NOT running for President. There is no way in hell he could or would want to take the heat all real polticians take. Hell, he championed Obama last time...

    Trump is a megomaniacal bully & when all his bullshit is constantly being hurled back at him he will cave - just like he did last time he was investigating running. Plus he's got way too much bad baggage to ever be a viable candidate. He's a phony who should be in that "special place" of his counting his equally phony bibles...

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    Re: Donald Trump is losing it. God help us, the man might be serious

    Quote Originally Posted by GorDoom View Post
    Trump is NOT a politician, he's a fucking joke & he's NOT running for President. There is no way in hell he could or would want to take the heat all real polticians take. Hell, he championed Obama last time...

    Trump is a megomaniacal bully & when all his bullshit is constantly being hurled back at him he will cave - just like he did last time he was investigating running. Plus he's got way too much bad baggage to ever be a viable candidate. He's a phony who should be in that "special place" of his counting his equally phony bibles...

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    GorDoom if we were in a better econ. & a more stable global scene, I'd agree w/ you in re to baggage, but the field has been altered. The stakes are higher & dicer, & if you listen closely to what Trump is saying he is nailing many of the insecurities americans are now holding in re to the nation. the fact that hes doing it in a smash mouth non-pc is ever the more appreciated. Couple that w/ his business acumen & sucess it makes for a very dangerous opponent for the President.

    furthermore, Trump is more skilled in dealing w/ the media then he was a decade ago.

    & as far as bs, we are knee deep in a celebrity culture, so I dont think that really hurts, esp since he has gained his celebrity partly through actual business achievement.

    I, like you, think he'll probaly end up not running. But I do think hes serious right now in testing the waters & so far the response hes getting may very well get him in.

    finally, as far as supporting Obama, at best it was only an acknowledging nod. infact, it was more driven for his utter disgust w/ Pres. Bush, wh/ by the way helps him even w/ many republicans & certainly w/ conservative leaning indepedents.

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    Re: Donald Trump is losing it. God help us, the man might be serious

    Bet you a 100 bucks he doesn't run & this is all a charade. This isn't political it's a massive mental cluster fuck. Think Charlie Sheen. Charlie & Trump have a LOT in common. They are both blowhards that lie shamelessly for their own means & the whole world revolves around their messed up, insane & very putrid ego's.

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    Re: Donald Trump is losing it. God help us, the man might be serious

    Quote Originally Posted by GorDoom View Post
    Bet you a 100 bucks he doesn't run & this is all a charade. This isn't political it's a massive mental cluster fuck. Think Charlie Sheen. Charlie & Trump have a LOT in common. They are both blowhards that lie shamelessly for their own means & the whole world revolves around their messed up, insane & very putrid ego's.

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    interesting comparison to sheen. I do have to admit, there are some strong parallels in re to the psyche. however, I think trump is much more skilled & wiser.

    how much of this guy is really driven by narcissism & how much is real pride & love in his nation?

    tougher call for me. There's no doubt the guy has a crap load of bluster & pomp, & he may very well be trolling this just to further his own media agendas.

    yet, I also detect a genuine love & pride for his city & it people. He also has a military background & grounded respect for those who serve. When I do watch his show I also see a guy who is more empathetic & insightful into various peoples skills. He supports & builds up people you wouldnt expect. Inturn, he's got better human resource talents then I think people realize.

    if your right, the new cutting edge tactic in politics then must be guerilla message hijacking.

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    Re: Donald Trump is losing it. God help us, the man might be serious

    The only thing Trump has genuine pride & love over is MONEY. He doesn't give a damn about anything, anyone or any institution but himself. Hand, I know your a smart, cogent, guy because I've been reading your posts for going on 5 years, don't be naive & get yourself fooled.

    & Sheen & Trump were separated at birth. The only difference is that Trump is older & more experienced at spreading his manure...

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    I don't know, Gor. I think that Sheen is smarter than Trump and--amazingly enough--that Sheen is in closer touch with reality than Trump is.

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    LOL! Gotta admit I like Charlie (if like is the right word) more than Trump. When I look at Trump I see this despicable, back stabbing, seriously sick, depraved, degenerate, bloated eunuch from some Roman Emperor's court.

    How anybody can believe a word he says or put any trust in him truly wobbles the mind...

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    Re: Donald Trump is losing it. God help us, the man might be serious

    Daily News Owner Mort Zuckerman Says Donald Trump Never 'Saved' Paper

    NEW YORK -- Donald Trump didn't care much for the Daily News' cover on Monday that mocked his presidential aspirations as a circus act, complete with clown make-up. The "Sideshow Don" headline referred to Senior White House Adviser David Plouffe's dismissive take on the real estate mogul-turned-reality star's recent turn to politics.

    On Thursday, Trump told New York Post State Editor Fred Dicker on the radio that the Daily News was "disloyal" to him because he once "saved" the newspaper after Mort Zuckerman and former Co-Owner Fred Drasner came to him for help.

    "I understand the Daily News," Trump said. "I saved the Daily News when Mort Zuckerman and Fred Drasner came to me years ago, and they had a huge problem, and I was able to help then save the Daily News. And that's the treatment I get. So that's called very disloyal and I could go into it, and probably I will later on down the line when it's important. But it's not that important right now."

    Trump's claim was news to Zuckerman, who told The Huffington Post, "its the first I heard of this."

    Zuckerman, a fellow real estate mogul who also recently considered stepping into politics, said he has "no idea what [Trump's] talking about" and can't recall ever asking him for help on anything.

    In light of Trump's on-air boast about him, Zuckerman joked that he "just finally realized that I have a twin brother."

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    Re: Donald Trump is losing it. God help us, the man might be serious

    Trump loves his country? I think Trump couldn't love his own mother let alone his country . . the guy is a major league d-bag with a major history of business FAILURES along with some succeses, he got more hype than your typical real estate tycoon b/c he was a complete windbag and loved to milk the whole Gorden Gekko persona to death, and the media lapped it up. He won't run and if he does he'll suffer the same fate of fellow circus clown Sarah Palin.

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    Re: Donald Trump is losing it. God help us, the man might be serious

    Or he could be the next Ross Perot, or see himself that way.

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    Re: Donald Trump is losing it. God help us, the man might be serious

    Quote Originally Posted by GorDoom View Post
    When I look at Trump I see this despicable, back stabbing, seriously sick, depraved, degenerate, bloated eunuch from some Roman Emperor's court.

    GorDoom
    Nailed it! Thank you! And have you read Juvenal's satires about the Roman parasites? Those would apply well to Trump.

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    Re: Donald Trump is losing it. God help us, the man might be serious

    Yes I have & also Gibbons Rise & Fall Of The Roman Empire. Robert Grave's, I Claudius & Claudius The God. But the absolute best description of the eunuch's in the Roman emperor's courts was, Gore Vidal's Julian. It's about the last pagan emperor of Rome.

    Trump with his absolute soullessness & depravity is typecast for the part...

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    Re: Donald Trump is losing it. God help us, the man might be serious

    VIDEO: John Stewart on Trump's Birth Certificate Investigators

    This is HILARIOUS!!!


    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...ators-20110414

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    Re: Donald Trump is losing it. God help us, the man might be serious

    He's so out of touch with working class people. I with GorDoom here. He's not running. He just loves being in the pubic eye.

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    Re: Donald Trump is losing it. God help us, the man might be serious

    Trump: I'm worth whatever I feel


    Donald Trump sued the author of a book over the question of his net worth.

    By Kiran Khalid, CNN p

    NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Everyone knows it: Donald Trump is rich. Really rich.

    Forbes magazine has ranked him among its 400 richest Americans nearly every year since it started keeping track in 1982.
    And in his own media blitz, Trump -- who is acting like a candidate, even though he hasn't officially become one -- has been boasting about his wealth.

    But just how much Trump is actually worth remains the subject of debate and even a lawsuit.

    Last week, Trump told CNN's Candy Crowley that his net worth is "many, many, many times Mitt Romney," making him a better-suited contender for president. And on Thursday, he reiterated the claim on CNN's American Morning.

    "Forbes says $2.7 billion. I can tell you that's a very low number. It's much more than that," Trump said, adding if he decides to run, he would provide a financial statement. "I think people will be extremely impressed."

    For its part, Forbes magazine says it relies on a variety of sources, including "employees, rivals, attorneys, ex-spouses and securities analysts." It includes all assets, from stakes in companies to art to yachts.

    How Trump could incite a trade war
    But because many of Trump's holdings are private companies, their value is not publicly disclosed. Other properties, such as the Trump Soho in New York City, are not actually owned by Trump; instead, he gets a licensing fee for allowing them to brandish his moniker.

    In addition, Trump is involved in many complicated deals -- making calculating his wealth tricky.

    In recent years, he's expanded his empire to include the NBC reality show "The Apprentice" and its spinoff "Celebrity Apprentice."

    At least one reporter who has challenged Trump's value of his opaque pool of assets has ended up in court.

    Timothy O'Brien, then a reporter at the New York Times, disputed Trump's net worth in his book, "TrumpNation: The Art of Being the Donald," which Warner Books, then owned by CNN's parent company Time Warner, published in 2005.

    O'Brien put Trump's wealth somewhere between $150 million and $250 million, attributing the figures to people with direct knowledge of Trump's finances.

    "None of these people thought that he was remotely close to being a billionaire," O'Brien wrote in an excerpt published in the Times.


    Trump sued O'Brien and Warner Books for libel. The case was dismissed but Trump appealed. A decision is pending. CNN has obtained a copy of a deposition of Trump that was conducted on Dec. 19-20, 2007. (Read excerpts from the deposition)

    In the deposition, Trump insists he's a bona fide billionaire.

    "I am a billionaire," he said. "Of course, if you read Tim O'Brien's writings and what was then transposed into the The New York Times, you would certainly not think that. But I am a billionaire, many times over, on a conservative basis."

    And the book has cost him business, Trump says.

    "I've lost deals. I've lost specific deals because of it," he said.

    Throughout the deposition, Trump sparred with O'Brien's lawyer, Andrew Ceresney, over how the real estate tycoon determined what he was worth.

    Trump: My net worth fluctuates, and it goes up and down with the markets and with attitudes and with feelings, even my own feelings, but I try.

    Ceresney: Let me just understand that a little. You said your net worth goes up and down based upon your own feelings?

    Trump: Yes, even my own feelings, as to where the world is, where the world is going, and that can change rapidly from day to day ...

    Ceresney: When you publicly state a net worth number, what do you base that number on?

    Trump: I would say it's my general attitude at the time that the question may be asked. And as I say, it varies.

    But the deposition shows Trump's valuation of his properties can be at odds with others' views.

    "Donald owns 40 Wall Street, which he spent about $35 million to buy and refurbish in 1996," lawyer Ceresney read from O'Brien's book. "The building has about $145 million in debt attached to it, and New York City assessors value it at $90 million. Donald values it at $400 million."

    Trump reacts to the passage by saying: "Anybody would understand that a city assessment is 15 and 20 percent the value of a building."

    When questioned about the return on his investment from several golf courses, Trump said he does his own math.

    See Trump's golf course in Westchester
    Ceresney: Have you ever done a projection as to how much you anticipate you will profit on these courses over time in light of the contributions that you're making in cash?

    Trump: Yes, I've done mental projections.

    Ceresney: Mental projections?

    Trump: Yes.

    Ceresney: These are projections that you've done in your head?

    Trump: Yes.

    Though Trump acknowledged that he provided O'Brien with financial statements showing his wealth at $3.6 billion, he said the actual figure is closer to $6 billion.

    "These statements ... never included the value of the brand. And there are those who say the brand is very, very valuable," Trump said in the deposition.

    O'Brien's book tainted his name, The Donald said.

    "My reputation was severely hurt. It was damaged and therefore my brand was damaged," he said.

    --CNNMoney senior writer Tami Luhby contributed to this article.

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    Re: Donald Trump is losing it. God help us, the man might be serious

    The quotable Donald Trump
    By Carrie Dann/MSNBC

    As most Americans have probably noticed by now, Donald Trump has a lot of strong opinions.
    The TV host/ real estate tycoon/ interminable bombast generator has done scores of media interviews throughout his years in the spotlight, building – along with something in the ballpark of 95 percent national name recognition -- a Google-ready quote trove for journalists and political opponents to mine.
    News outlets, including First Read, have already noted Trump’s potentially problematic statements about his onetime support for universal health care, his praise for the stimulus plan, and his flip-flop on abortion.
    Digging through those transcripts, we also found some instances of Trump opining on famous folks, from a former president of the United States to, um, K-Fed.
    Here’s a few of them.
    On Paris Hilton:
    “Paris said she wants to build a brand just like Donald Trump and I don't know if she's done it the same way but she is smart like a fox … I also happen to think that I believe she's very beautiful. A lot of people don't agree with me, you know. Some people say ‘Oh, she's really not.’ I happen to think she's very beautiful.” (CNN/ October 9, 2006)
    On Angelina Jolie:
    “She's been with so many guys she makes me look like a baby, OK, with the other side. And I just don't even find her attractive.” (CNN/ October 9, 2006)
    On former Rep. Mark Foley:
    “And, you know, if I were gay, which is perhaps a well-known story that I'm not, I would admit that I'm gay. But he would come in with magnificent-looking women. It was like torture to me watching this.” (CNN/ October 9, 2006)
    On former Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich:
    “I don't say he’s a rocket scientist.” (Fox News, May 24, 2010)
    On onetime presidential candidate Pat Buchanan:
    “He's a Hitler lover. I guess he's an anti-Semite. He doesn't like the blacks, he doesn't like the gays. It's just incredible that anybody could embrace this guy. And maybe he'll get 4 or 5 percent of the vote and it'll be a really staunch right wacko vote.” (NBC, October 24, 1999)
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    On O.J. Simpson:
    “This is probably the least innocent person I`ve ever seen.” (CNN, September 19, 2007)
    On Kevin Federline, ex-husband of Britney Spears:
    “You know when somebody likes you, you say ‘Hey.’ So, I totally changed my mind. I think Kevin Federline is fantastic.” (CNN/ October 9, 2006)
    On former Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice:
    “Condoleezza Rice, who's a lovely woman but she never makes a deal. She doesn't make deals. She waves. She gets off the plane. She waves. She sits down with some dictator, 45-degree angle. They do the camera shot. She waves again. She gets back on the plane. She waves. No deal ever happens.” (CNN/ March 16 2007)
    On the cast of 'The View':
    “Barbara Walters is a person that I know very well. I mean, she picked me last year as one of her top 10 people of whatever it's called. So, it's not like I dislike Barbara, but I'm disappointed in Barbara.”
    And: “I don't even know Joy Behar. I just think she has no talent whatsoever.”
    And: “Elisabeth Hasselbeck is not, as I said, is not the brightest light on the planet.” (Fox, May 31, 2007)
    On Rosie O’Donnell:
    “She went to my wedding. She had lots and lots of cake, and I'll tell you what, she is a terrible human being.” (FOX, May 29, 2007)
    On God:
    Caller: “Number one, where is the best real estate to buy right now? And number two, what do you think about God?”
    Trump: I love God. I believe in God, much more important question. And number two, real estate is good all over depending on if you know the location.” (CNN, March 9, 2006)
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    On Michael Jackson
    “Yes, he's a friend of mine. I mean, he's a good guy. You know, he's a little different.” (CNN, May 17, 2005)
    On Sir Richard Branson, billionaire founder of the Virgin brand
    “I'm not a man of the people, right? He is. But the fact is that, you know, as far as Branson's concerned, I doubt -- I personally don't see how he could be a billionaire. He's in the airline business. Who's a billionaire in the airline business?” (CNN, November 24, 2004)
    On President Bill Clinton
    “Why do they keep revealing the details? He had sex, but now they talk about the kind of sex, the--where it took place, where it was, on the desk, off the desk--I mean, it's--it's so out-of-control. I've never seen anything like it.” (CNBC, August 27, 1998)
    On Clinton’s accusers
    Trump: These people are just, I don't know, where he met them - where he found them … The whole group, Paula Jones, Lewinsky, it's just a really unattractive group. I'm not just talking about physical.
    Interviewer: Would it be any different if it were a supermodel crowd?
    Trump: I think at least it would be more pleasant to watch. (FOX, August 19, 1998)
    On President Bill Clinton vs. President Trump?
    “Can you imagine how controversial I'd be? You think about him with the women. How about me with the women? Can you imagine?” (CNBC, August 27, 1998)

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    Video: Donald Trump Curses Our Leaders



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    How the presidential aspirant avoided fighting for his country

    APRIL 28--Despite Donald Trump’s claim this week that he avoided serving in the Vietnam War solely due to a high draft number, Selective Service records show that the purported presidential aspirant actually received a series of student deferments while in college and then topped those off with a medical deferment after graduation that helped spare him from fighting for his country, The Smoking Gun has learned.

    During a TV interview Tuesday morning, Trump--who spent his high school years enrolled at the New York Military Academy--said, “I actually got lucky because I had a very high draft number. I’ll never forget, that was an amazing period of time in my life.”

    He went on to recall, “I was going to the Wharton School of Finance, and I was watching as they did the draft numbers and I got a very, very high number and those numbers never got up to.” The word “deferment” was not mentioned by Trump during his chat with the morning show hosts on WNYW, the Fox affiliate in New York City.

    However, Selective Service records reveal that Trump, the fortunate son of a multimillionaire real estate baron, took repeated steps to avoid serving in Vietnam.

    By the time his number (356) was drawn during the December 1, 1969 draft lottery, Trump had already received four student deferments and a medical deferment, according to military records on file with the National Archives and Records Administration. An extract of Trump’s Selective Classification record, seen here, was provided in response to a TSG records request.

    In fact, the December 1969 draft lottery occurred about 18 months after Trump graduated from the University of Pennsylvania, where he studied business at the Wharton School. So, while claiming that he would “never forget” being at Wharton watching the draft numbers being drawn, the 64-year-old Trump seems to have misremembered, as candidates are fond of saying.

    Trump obtained his first two Class 2-S student deferments in June 1964 and December 1965, when he was student at Fordham University in the Bronx. He was briefly reclassified as 1-A--or “available for military service”--in late-November 1966, but that classification was switched back to 2-S three weeks later.

    Another 2-S deferment is dated January 16, 1968, just months before his graduation from UPenn (to which he transferred following his sophomore year at Fordham).

    Following his UPenn graduation, Trump--no longer qualified for a 2-S deferment--was again briefly classified as available for service on July 9. However, three months later, on October 15, his classification was switched to 1-Y, which was given to men deemed qualified for military service “only in time of national emergency.”

    The 1-Y classification came a month after Trump underwent an “Armed Forces Physical Examination,” according to Selective Service records, which note the results of the exam as “DISQ.” While the military records do not further detail why Trump was granted the 1-Y deferment, a 1992 biography of the businessman by journalist Wayne Barrett reported that Trump received a medical deferment following the September 17, 1968 exam.

    Trump’s 1-Y classification stayed in effect until February 1, 1972 when it was changed to a 4-F classification (which covered registrants not qualified for military service). The change in classification was likely prompted by the military’s December 1971 decision to abolish the 1-Y classification.

    The Selective Service records also include a copy of the registration card signed by Trump in June 1964, 10 days after he turned 18. The possible future Commander-in-Chief, it turns out, has birthmarks on both his heels.

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    "The possible future Commander-in-Chief, it turns out, has birthmarks on both his heels".

    Gee, I wonder if he has a little tiny tail also...

    GorDoom

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    Obama's Jokes Target Trump at White House Correspondents' Dinner

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    April 30: A video is shown as President Barack Obama, speaks about Donald Trump at the White House Correspondents Association Dinner in Washington.
    WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama exacted his revenge Saturday after weeks of attacks from his would-be Republican challenger Donald Trump, joking that the billionaire businessman could bring change to the White House, transforming it from a stately mansion into a tacky casino with a whirlpool in the garden.
    With Trump in attendance, Obama used the White House Correspondents' Association annual dinner to mock the reality TV star's presidential ambitions. The president said Trump has shown the acumen of a future president, from firing Gary Busey on a recent episode of "Celebrity Apprentice" to focusing so much time on conspiracy theories about Obama's birthplace.
    After a week when Obama released his long-form Hawaii birth certificate, he said Trump could now focus on the serious issues, from whether the moon landing actually happened to "where are Biggie and Tupac?"
    "No one is prouder to put this birth certificate matter to rest than 'the Donald,"' Obama said, referring to Trump's claims the same day that he was responsible for solving the issue.
    For Trump's decision to fire actor Busey instead of rock singer Meat Loaf from his TV show earlier this month, Obama quipped: "These are the types of decisions that would keep me up at night. Well handled, sir."

    And then, as a coup de grace, Obama showed a screen with his vision of how Trump could bring change to the White House. "Trump" was prominently displayed in glittery letters and girls could be seen with cocktails on a Jacuzzi-augmented front lawn.
    Trump chuckled at some of the earlier jokes, but was clearly less amused as comedian Seth Meyers picked up where Obama left off.
    "Donald Trump often talks about running as a Republican, which is surprising," said the Saturday Night Live actor, entrusted with providing some of the comedy for the evening. "I just assumed he was running as a joke."
    Trump stared icily at Meyers as he continued to criticize the real estate tycoon.
    Obama and Trump found themselves in the same room after an intense week of attacks from Trump, who has piggybacked on the birther conspiracies and even Obama's refusal to release his university grades to raise the profile of his possible presidential bid.
    And the birth certificate was clearly the key punchline for the evening, which typically offers the president a chance to show off his humorous side and a town consumed by politics and partisanship to enjoy a light-hearted affair.
    Obama's presentation started after the wrestler Hulk Hogan's patriotic anthem, "Real American," played. Images of Americana from Mount Rushmore to Uncle Sam were shown on the screen, alongside his birth certificate. And then he offered to show his live birth video, which turned out to be a clip from the Disney film, "The Lion King."
    On the serious side, Obama took time to thank the troops for their service overseas and noted that the people of the South, especially Alabama, have suffered heart-wrenching losses.
    "The devastation is unbelievable and it is heartbreaking," he said. He encouraged the journalists in the room to help tell the stories of those who have been hurt by the storms and saluted those who lost their lives while covering the news.
    Other possible Republican presidential hopefuls in attendance were former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman, Rep. Michele Bachmann and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich. And stars such as Sean Penn and Scarlett Johansson also were among the more than 2,500 people who attended.
    The association was formed in 1914 as a liaison between the press and the president. Every president since Calvin Coolidge has attended the dinner. Some of the proceeds from the dinner pay for journalism scholarships for college students.
    Several journalists will also be honored at the dinner:
    -- Dan Balz of The Washington Post and Jake Tapper of ABC News, for winning the Merriman Smith Award for presidential coverage under deadline pressure. Balz won for coverage of an unexpected appearance by Obama and former President Bill Clinton at a White House briefing, and Tapper won for revealing that Obama would ask Director of National Intelligence Dennis Blair to resign.
    -- Peter Baker of The New York Times, for winning the Aldo Beckman award for sustained excellence in White House coverage, for stories dubbed "the education of a president."
    -- Michael Berens of The Seattle Times, for winning the Edgar A. Poe Award for excellence in coverage of news of national or regional significance. Berens uncovered flaws in a health care plan for seniors that resulted in neglect, abuse and even death.

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    Donald Trump not amused by Obama's jokes at White House Correspondents Dinner; 'honored' by insults
    BY HELEN KENNEDY
    DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

    The Donald was not amused.

    Donald Trump, who sat stonefaced as he was roasted unmercifully at the White House Correspondents Dinner, had little good to say Sunday about the shindig.

    "The content I understand, but the amount of jokes? I was amazed at the number," Trump said.

    He said he didn't think any of the jokes were particularly funny, but assumed the mockery Saturday night was a sign of his growing political clout.

    "When you're leading the polls, I guess that's the one you shoot at," he said. "I was honored by the fact that they devoted most of their speeches to me."

    President Obama and the headlining comedian, Saturday Night Live's Seth Meyers, sent up birth certificate conspiracies and unleashed a barrage of ridicule at Trump's hair, accent, ties, taste and TV show.

    "I thought Seth's delivery was terrible. He had marbles in his mouth," Trump said. "His presentation was not good. The president was far superior."

    Frequent C-Span cutaways to Trump, who was sitting at the Washington Post's table, showed the eccentrically-coiffed mogul never even pretended to be laughing along.

    He stared straight at the stage, gimlet-eyed, as the ribbing mounted and his dining companions squirmed.

    The whole thing "was so awkward that some folks at his table stopped laughing and applauding," according to Politico's Mike Allen.

    The rest of the room, however, roared at each new joke.

    "Donald Trump has been saying he will run for president as a Republican, which is surprising because I just assumed that he was running as a joke," Meyers said.

    "Donald Trump often appears on Fox, which is ironic, because a fox often appears on Donald Trump's head."

    In particular, Obama doubled over when Meyers theorized that Trump's comment about his "great relationship with the Blacks" must have been about a white family called the Blacks.

    Trump said he thought the biggest laugh went to Obama's cartoon mock up of what the White House would look like if Trump won office: a garish pink neon sign advertising the "Trump White House: hotel, casino, golf course and Presidential Suite" with bikini babes frolicking in a hot tub on the north lawn and the stately portico columns repainted gold.

    For the record, Trump said President The Donald would not be redecorating.

    "We have much more important problems," he said.

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    Donald Trump drops F-bombs on Las Vegas crowd

    Donald Trump on Thursday dropped a barrage of F-bombs at a massive Las Vegas rally where he blasted the president repeatedly and slammed politicians as "blood suckers."

    "Our leaders are stupid, they are stupid people," he said to the crowd of about 1,000 people at the reception at the Treasure Island casino along the Las Vegas Strip, sponsored by the Clark County GOP and three women's groups. "It's just very, very sad."

    On the nation's involvement in military actions overseas, he said: "We build a school, we build a road, they blow up the school, we build another school, we build another road they blow them up, we build again, in the meantime we can't get a f——ing school in Brooklyn."

    On how to deal with OPEC to lower oil prices?

    "We have nobody in Washington that sits back and said, you're not going to raise that f—-ing price," Trump said, according to KTNV in Nevada.

    And how he'd tell China he wants to slap a tariff on their exports?

    "Listen you mother——ers we're going to tax you 25 percent!"

    He assured a woman in the crowd who urged him to run that he expected to make her "very happy," but added later, "there is a really good chance that I won't win because of one of these blood-sucking politicians.

    "I'm not interested in protecting none of them unless they pay," he added.

    He also said the U.S. Supreme Court ought to rule on the spate of lawsuits against Obama’s health care reforms.

    The cursing didn't necessarily have populist resonance with everyone in the crowd.

    "I think he needs to work on that a little bit," local Republican David Gibbs told the local TV station.

    And despite blasting reporters for querying him about a topic he's raised repeatedly, he voluntarily took another victory lap over the president's move to ask Hawaiian officials to release his long-form proof of birth.

    "Hillary Clinton tried to get him to do it, Bill Clinton tried to get him to do it, John McCain, who's a wonderful guy, tried to get him to do it," KTNV quoted him saying. "Nobody could get him to do it and he did it because we went after him hard, were tough negotiators like this country needs."

    Mike Huckabee joked on Fox News's "Your World with Neil Cavuto" about the Trump F-bomb tirade which, according to Reuters, was also accompanied by a joke about testicles.

    "They always say what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas? Obviously not," Huckabee quipped, adding that Trump was probably the "only" person he knew who could take to the podium and say what he said not just once, but three times, and still be standing.

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    Trump Collapses In Republican Primary Poll
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    Donald Trump's brief flirtation with the lead in Republican primary polls may be over, according to a new poll released Tuesday.

    The survey, conducted by the Democratic firm Public Policy Polling, found Trump garnering only 8 percent of potential Republican primary voters, down from 26 percent who said they would support him if he ran in PPP's previous survey. That plunge in support was enough to drop him from a solid first place to a tie for fifth place.

    As recently as last week, a CNN poll conducted April 29-May 1 found Trump vying for the lead in the Republican primary with 14 percent to Mike Huckabee's 16 percent. So far, Republican primary surveys have shown that no frontrunner has emerged in the race, which means that candidate rankings in those surveys can be particularly volatile.

    To add to the woes, Trump's favorable rating among Republicans is deep in negative territory in the new poll. Previous surveys had found that Americans more generally had an unfavorable opinion of Trump, but showed him with at least tepidly supportive ratings among Republicans.

    Trump's drop in support could be related in part to a sharp drop in the number of Republican "birthers," as measured by PPP, since President Obama released his long-form birth certificate to the public. In the new poll, 48 percent of Republicans said they believed Obama was born in the United States and 32 percent said that he was not. In a February PPP poll, the firm's most recent poll on the subject conducted before the birth certificate release, only 28 percent said he was born in the US while a 51 percent majority said that he was not.

    On top of that, a CBS/New York Times poll conducted April 15-20, before the birth certificate release, found that even among Republicans, only 37 percent said that Trump was a serious candidate and 57 percent said that he was not.

    The new poll was conducted between May 5 and May 8 among 610 "usual" Republican primary voters using automated telephone technology, and has a margin of error of 4 percentage points.

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    Re: Donald Trump is losing it. God help us, the man might be serious

    Like I said at the beginning of this thread Trump was pulling a Charlie Sheen & there was NO WAY he would get nominated. A giant stunt that totally backfired as Trump exposed himself as the fool he truly is...

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