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    Joe Walcott vs. Jerry Quarry

    Is Quarry a good enough boxer to deal with Jersey Joe's slip-n-slide technique?

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    Re: Joe Walcott vs. Jerry Quarry

    What's your take, popup?

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    Re: Joe Walcott vs. Jerry Quarry

    Jersey Joe would have just been too slick for Jerry. Plus he was a bigger guy who could also punch - ask Ezzard Charles ... I'm a big fan of Jerry's a fighter with tremendous heart. But he had his limitations & I really believe Jersey Joe was simply a notch above Jerry as a fighter.

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    Re: Joe Walcott vs. Jerry Quarry

    I think GorDoom's assessment of the fight is correct. Quarry is good, Walcott is very good! The bout would be exciting while it lasted, but after a few rounds Quarry would start to get cut. The Bellflower Belter would put Jersey Joe under extreme pressure for much of the fight. However Walcott’s excellent defense would get him through the rough moments until he could assert himself. Most likely it would be a TKO victory for Joe some time during the 7th or 8th round.

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    Re: Joe Walcott vs. Jerry Quarry

    Austin and GorDoom i think you have it right. I love J Q but this guy is just a class above him. I think he might have stopped Jerry.
    A lot seem to think Joe was robbed against Louis. He also gave Marciano enough problems, both at peak my money is on Walcott.

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    Re: Joe Walcott vs. Jerry Quarry

    I think Walcott at his very best is one of the very best Heavyweights in head to head matchups. He had it all-speed, power, stamina, and an awkward as hell style to figure out. Counter puncher par excellence. I see him beating Quarry comfortably on points.

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    Re: Joe Walcott vs. Jerry Quarry

    Two counter punchers in the ring here. Walcott probably leads better and has an edge in most natural attributes save the chin. If Quarry is stopped it's going to be on cuts. Generally in a matchup between 2 sluggers my inclination is to go with the better chin which is Quarry.

    I guess I'd give Walcott the edge here because the Quarry cut factor "cuts" into his chin advantage, but I pretty much see this as a pickem fight at their bests.

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    Re: Joe Walcott vs. Jerry Quarry

    Normally I could agree with your points, Roberto ... But Jersey Joe would fight from angles that Jerry never even imagined. I don't consider Walcott in the upper pantheons of Heavyweight Champions ...But, Jersey Joe was simply one of the finest ring technicians, EVER - at any weight which is amazing for a heavy - & Jerry simply wouldn't be able to cope wiith the myriad of angles, footwork & the ultimate caginess of a boxing master like Jersey Joe.

    & on top of all that Joe probably had better power & stamina than Jerry at his best. Ther first Marciano fight alone shows me that Walcott even at an ancient (for those times) could have handled Jerry fairly easily after Quarry's early rounds asault.

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    Re: Joe Walcott vs. Jerry Quarry

    I agree more so with Roberto,

    Walcott is indeed a different class boxer to that of Quarry, but is he as good a fighter? It's important to remember Walcott was guilty of switching off and going 'walk about' in fights -- He was not all business like Jerry was.

    Walcott can cause hell with his angle of sneaky punches to cut Quarry up, but Jerry pressed the issue for 15 and has the punch to rattle Walcott. He may frustrate, but I can't see Walcott taming him.

    There should be a bit more faith with Jersey Joe and his disruptive boxing style, but Quarry, with his toughness n' punch can work his gameplan effectively.

    Say the Walcott of Marciano 1 -- the man who slugged an won vs. the Rock for 12 -- I would fancy him to a cuts TKO or comfortable points decision, but Quarry would be no picnic, no matter how well Walcott fought.

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    Re: Joe Walcott vs. Jerry Quarry

    Quarry was good, a true ring warrior. Decent skill, good power, good chin. You wanna find out how good your fighter is? Put him in ring with Quarry and see how he does.

    But Jersey Joe was, as others have pointed out, a cut above. I'm not sure which of them hit harder (both men had good punching power; not great, but good) but I think Walcott was faster and could choose when he did or didn't want to mix it up. I can see Walcott staying at distance and winning a boring decision.

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    What happens between the two had their careers overlapped, then I certainly could see Walcott coming in as he had throughout his career at less than his best so seeing Quarry holding a victory or victories over Joe, is not out of the question.

    But if we are taking the very best version of Walcott agianst he best of Quarry, than I would say Walcott probably by mid to late rounds tko.

    Joe at his best WAS better than Quarry at HIS best.

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    Re: Joe Walcott vs. Jerry Quarry

    I think the huge caveat in picking Jersey Joe as the victor here would be his chin. He was also knocked out a few times in his career.

    In addition to being knocked out by Joe Louis in their second encounter and twice by Marciano, he was knocked out by Abe Simon in 1940, KO'ed by Tiger Jack Fox at light heavyweight in 1937, and knocked out by Al Ettore in 1936.

    However, he would probably outbox Quarry unless he really got caught.

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    Re: Joe Walcott vs. Jerry Quarry

    walcott TKO 11 quarry- quarry will have loads of trouble with jersey joes speed, skill, and jab. jersey joe had a very good jab. joe will really throw quarry off balance with his shuffle. quarrys best bet is too pressure jersey joe and outwork him on the inside. however, that will only spell nightmare for quarry who will be greeted with ripping fast powerful combos by jersey joe. jersey joe hit harder than quarry and add the fact he had a arsenal of sneaky punches that u didnt see coming half the time, it will spell big time trouble for jerry. quarry will get in some licks though. but this isnt a good style matchup for jerry. jerry will get his face cut to shreds in this one.

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    Re: Joe Walcott vs. Jerry Quarry

    JERSEY JOE WALCOTT'S CAREER RECORD

    Cyber Boxing Champion
    Jersey Joe Walcott

    Born: Arnold Raymond Cream, Jan 31, 1914, Merchantville, NJ
    Died: February 25, 1994 Camden, NJ
    Pro Record: 53-18-1 (33 Kayos)




    1930
    Sep 9 Cowboy Wallace Vineland, NJ KO 1
    Oct 10 Jimmy O'Toole Camden, NJ KO 4
    Oct 24 Frankie Matthews Camden, NJ KO 4

    1931
    Apr 20 Carl Mays Atlantic City KO 2

    1932
    Inactive

    1933
    May 5 Bob Norris Camden, NJ KO 1
    Jul 28 Henry Taylor Camden, NJ KO 1
    Nov 16 Henry Taylor Philadelphia L 6

    1934
    Inactive

    1935
    Jan 1 Al Lang Camden, NJ KO 1
    Feb 2 Lew Alva Camden, NJ KO 3
    Oct 1 Pat Roland Camden, NJ KO 4
    Oct 29 Joe King Camden, NJ KO 1
    Nov 26 Roxie Allen Camden, NJ KO 7

    1936
    Jan 21 Al Ettore Camden, NJ KO by 8
    Mar 16 Willie Reddish Philadelphia W 10
    Apr 28 Joe Colucci Camden, NJ KO 4
    Jun 16 Lou LaPage Coney Island, NY KO 6
    Jun 22 Phil Johnson Philadelphia KO 3
    Jul 14 Billy Ketchell Camden, NJ D 10
    Aug 1 Young Carmen Passarella Camden, NJ W 8
    Aug 15 Billy Ketchell Camden, NJ W 10
    Sep 1 Billy Ketchell Camden, NJ L 10

    1937
    May 22 Tiger Jack Fox New York KO by 8
    Sep 3 Joe Lipps Atlantic City KO 2
    Sep 25 Elmer Ray New York KO 3
    Oct 9 George Brothers New York L 8

    1938
    Jan 10 Freddie Fiducia Philadelphia W 8
    Jan 20 Jim Whitest Philadelphia W 8
    Mar 25 Art Sykes Philadelphia KO 4
    Apr 12 Lorenzo Pack Camden, NJ KO 4
    May 10 Tiger Jack Fox Camden, NJ L 10
    Jun 14 Roy Lazer Fairview, NJ L 10
    Dec 23 Bob Tow Camden, NJ W 8

    1939
    Aug 14 Al Boros Newark, NJ W 8
    Nov 18 Curtis Sheppard New York W 8

    1940
    Jan 19 Tiger Red Lewis Philadelphia KO 6
    Feb 12 Abe Simon Newark, NJ KO by 6

    1941
    Jun 27 Columbus Grant Memphis, TN KO 3

    1942-43
    Inactive

    1944
    Jun 7 Felix Del Paoli Batesville, NJ W 8
    Jun 28 Ellis Singleton Batesville, NJ KO 3

    1945
    Jan 11 Jackie Saunders Camden, NJ KO 2
    Jan 25 Johnny "Skippy" Allen Camden, NJ L 8
    Feb 22 Austin Johnson Camden, NJ W 6
    Mar 15 Johnny "Skippy" Allen Camden, NJ W 8
    Aug 2 Joe Baksi Camden, NJ W 10
    Sep 20 Johnny Denson Camden, NJ KO 2
    Oct 23 Steve Dudas Paterson, NJ KO 5
    Nov 12 Lee Q. Murray Baltimore WDQ 9
    Dec 10 Curtis Sheppard Baltimore KO 10

    1946
    Jan 30 Johnny "Skippy" Allen Camden, NJ KO 3
    Feb 25 Jimmy Bivins Cleveland W 10
    Mar 20 Al Blake Camden, NJ KO 4
    May 24 Lee Oma New York W 10
    Aug 16 Tommy Gomez New York KO 3
    Aug 28 Joey Maxim Camden, NJ L 10
    Nov 15 Elmer Ray New York L 10

    1947
    Jan 6 Joey Maxim Philadelphia W 10
    Apr 3 Elmer Ray Miami W 10
    Jun 23 Joey Maxim Los Angeles W 10
    Dec 5 Joe Louis New York L 15
    (For World Heavyweight Title)

    1948
    Mar 10 Austin Johnson Chicago Exh 4
    Jun 25 Joe Louis New York KO by 11
    (For World Heavyweight Title)
    Dec 14 Earl Griffin Camden, NJ Exh. 4

    1949
    Feb 4 Baba Adams Curacao Exh
    Jun 22 Ezzard Charles Chicago L 15
    (For Vacant NBA Heavyweight Title)
    Aug 14 Olle Tandberg Stockholm KO 5

    1950
    Feb 8 Harold Johnson Philadelphia KO 3
    Mar 3 Omelio Agramonte New York KO 7
    Mar 13 Johnny Shkor Philadelphia KO 1
    May 28 Hein Ten Hoff Mannheim, Germany W 10
    Nov 24 Rex Layne New York L 10

    1951
    Mar 7 Ezzard Charles Detroit L 15
    (For World Heavyweight Title)
    Jul 18 Ezzard Charles Pittsburgh KO 7
    (Wins World Heavyweight Title)

    1952
    Jan 10 Jackie Burke New Bedford, MA Exh 5
    Jan 12 Jackie Burke Lewiston, ME Exh 5
    Jan 21 Jackie Burke Holyoke, MA Exh 5
    Jan 23 Jackie Burke Portland, ME Exh 4
    Jan 24 Jackie Burke St. Johns, New Brun. Exh 5
    Jan 25 Jackie Burke Bangor, ME Exh 5
    Jan 26 Jackie Burke Watery, ME Exh 5
    Jan 29 Jackie Burke Lewiston, PA Exh 5
    Feb 1 Jackie Burke Orlando, FL Exh 5
    Jun 5 Ezzard Charles Philadelphia W 15
    (Retains World Heavyweight Title)
    Sep 23 Rocky Marciano Philadelphia KO by 13
    (Loses World Heavyweight Title)

    1953
    May 15 Rocky Marciano Chicago KO by 1
    (For World Heavyweight Title)
    1963
    Aug 15 Wrestling: pinned in third round by Lou Thesz at Memphis, TN

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    Re: Joe Walcott vs. Jerry Quarry

    JERRY QUARRY'S CAREER RECORD

    Jerry Quarry

    Born: May 15, 1945 Los Angeles
    Died: January 3, 1999, Los Angeles


    Amateur Record: 170-13 (54 kayos)
    Pro Record: 53-9-4 (33 kayos)
    "Every time he swung, his elbows went flying out.
    I knew then that this guy just had to get hit!"

    -- Jerry Quarry, following 64-second kayo of Jack Bodell


    1965
    --- Wins Western Regional Golden Gloves Championship
    --- National Golden Gloves Champion
    May 7 Gene Hamilton Los Angeles W 4
    Jun 4 John Henry Jackson Los Angeles KO 4
    Jun 17 Lance Holmberg Los Angeles W 6
    Jun 25 Dave Centi Los Angeles W 6
    Jul 16 Willie Davis Los Angeles KO 3
    Jul 29 Ray Ellis Los Angeles W 6
    Aug 9 John Henry Jackson Kansas City KO 4
    Aug 27 J.P. Spencer Los Angeles KO 4
    Sep 24 Ray Ellis Los Angeles KO 3
    Oct 13 Melvin Manley Kansas City KO 1
    Oct 29 Al Carter Los Angeles KO 6
    Nov 2 Ray Crear San Antonio KO 3
    Nov 11 Tony Doyle Los Angeles D 10
    Dec 24 Ray Crear Los Angeles KO 3

    1966
    Feb 3 Ed Land Las Vegas W 8
    Feb 17 Prentice Snipes Los Angeles KO 5
    Mar 4 Tony Alongi New York D 10
    Apr 7 George "Scrapiron"Johnson Los Angeles KO 2
    May 2 Al Jones Kansas City W 10
    May 28 Tony Alongi Los Angeles D 10
    Jul 15 Eddie Machen Los Angeles L 10
    Oct 20 Bill Neilsen Los Angeles W 10
    Nov 29 Leslie Bordon Los Angeles KO 5
    Dec 15 Joey Orbillo Los Angeles W 10

    1967
    Jan 11 Al Jones San Francisco KO 5
    Mar 9 Brian London Los Angeles W 10
    Apr 27 Alex Miteff Los Angeles KO 3
    Jun 9 Floyd Patterson Los Angeles D 10
    Sep 15 Billy Daniels Los Angeles KO 1
    Oct 28 Floyd Patterson Los Angeles W 12
    (WBA Heavyweight Elimination Tournament)

    1968
    Feb 3 Thad Spencer Oakland KO 12
    (WBA Heavyweight Elimination Tournament)
    Apr 27 Jimmy Ellis Oakland L 15
    (For Vacant WBA Heavyweight Title)
    Nov 11 Bob Mumford Phoenix KO 5
    Nov 19 Willis Earls San Antonio W 10

    1969
    Jan 10 Charley Reno Seattle KO 5
    Jan 26 Aaron Eastling Canton, OH KO 5
    Mar 24 Buster Mathis New York W 12
    Jun 23 Joe Frazier New York KO by 7
    (For New York Heavyweight Title)
    Aug 11 John Carroll St. Paul, MN KO 1
    Sep 3 Brian London Oakland KO 2
    Dec 12 George Chuvalo New York KO by 7

    1970
    Mar 3 Rufus Brassell Miami Beach KO 2
    Mar 19 George Johnson Los Angeles W 10
    Jun 17 Mac Foster New York KO 6
    Sep 8 Stamford Harris Miami Beach KO 6
    Oct 26 Muhammad Ali Atlanta KO by 3

    1971
    Jun 18 Richard Gosha Seattle W 10
    Jul 24 Tony Doyle Lake Geneva, WI W 10
    Nov 16 Jack Bodell London KO 1
    Dec 2 Lou Bailey Des Moines, IA W 10

    1972
    Apr 17 Eduardo Corletti Los Angeles KO 1
    May 9 Larry Middleton London W 10
    Jun 27 Muhammad Ali Las Vegas KO by 7

    1973
    Jan 5 Randy Neumann New York KO 7
    Feb 9 Ron Lyle New York W 12
    Aug 31 James J. Woody Las Vegas KO 2
    Sep 10 Tony Doyle Los Angeles KO 4
    Dec 14 Earnie Shavers New York KO 1

    1974
    May 8 Joe Alexander New York KO 2
    Jun 17 Joe Frazier New York KO by 5

    1975
    Feb 25 George Johnson Honolulu W 10
    Mar 24 Ken Norton New York KO by 5

    1976
    Inactive

    1977
    Feb 15 Mike Quarry Seattle, WA Exh
    Nov 5 Lorenzo Zanon Las Vegas KO 9

    1978-82
    Inactive

    1983
    Aug 31 Lupe Guerra Albuquerque KO 1
    Nov 21 James Williams Bakersfield, CA W 10

    1984-91
    Inactive

    1992
    Oct 30 Ron Cramner WI L 6

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