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Young Griffo
Les Darcy
Peter Jackson
Jimmy Carruthers
Dave Sands
Johnny Famechon
Lionel Rose
Tony Mundine
Jeff Fenech
Kostya Tszyu
Any other notables you'd care to mention?
El Gato i remember reading in Boxing News that recently the Aussies voted on this afew weeks ago. Ill try dig out the results
personaly i would have it maybe
1. Jeff Fenech
2. Lionel Rose
3. Jimmy Carruthers
4. Johnny Famechon
5. Les Darcy
6. peter Jackson
7. Young Griffo
8. Kostya Tzsyu
9. Dave Sands
10. Tony Mundine
Maybe an honourable mention for Jeff Harding? Or possibly Jeff replacing Tony Mundine.
A revised list would have Jack Carroll in there, with Mundine getting the boot.
Fitzsimmons was a transplanted Aussie, but one of the top, if not the top, in my opinion was Young Griffo! Also Vic Patrick, Tommy Burns (Welterweight/Middleweight), Elley Bennett, Jack Haseen, Ron Richards and Trevor King were great fighters as well!
Last edited by BDeskins; 08-21-2010 at 06:30 AM.
Barry what do you know about Fred Henneberry?
as a Commonwealth fighter Henneberry went too Britain in hope of a shot at McAvoy, when the war broke out Henneberry went too the States and tried his luck there.
I think he ended his career there or round about those early war years, but by all accounts he was Top teir.
another great middleweight from that the greatest of middleweight eras!
jim.
I've not done a lot of research on Henneberry, but I have on several of the fighters that he faced and he was a top-notch middleweight in a time when the rankings were absolutely boiling over with top fighters. I think he could have certainly been a champion post 1980, with all the different belts. In his prime he was probably a B+, or A- fighter. In his prime, in rematches he did beat every fighter that beat him, and sometimes lost in the next rematch, which just stands to reason...any top fighter can beat any other top fighter on any given night! Jack Carroll, one of Henneberry's opponents was another top Aussie!
Henneberry lost by DQ to Allen Matthews, who was one fo the most feared fighters of his day, who never got a shot! Freddie Steele stated that Matthews was the toughest fight he ever had upm to that point and at the end of Steele's career Matthews may have still been his toughest opponent!
Back in that era a fighter could lose bouts and his career was not tarnished as being done with...kind of like MMA today...a fighter losses and he still keeps his reputation. Back in the day top boxers fought top boxers and as such they all lost occasionally, which is what happens when you fight often against top flight opposition unlike today where a fighter will go into training camp for three to six months for one fight. The old guys did not have time for that...they simply would just fight! Hell, Henneberry faced Ron Richards three times in 1933 within six months drawing the first bout, losing the second and stopping Richards in the third and the two would go on to face one another seven more times with Richards winning 5 and Henneberry 2!
Can you even imagine a fighter today facing one of their toughest opponents several times...how about Mayweather facing Jose Luis Castillo five times back when Castillo was still a world-beater, or any other fighter for that matter...it just doesn't happen! Occasionally, we get a special series by a few fighters like Rafael Marquez and Israel Vazquez, but it's rare!
If you include Jackson and Tszyu,you have to include Fitz.Originally Posted by El Gato
If you include Jackson and Tszyu,you have to include Fitz.
Was Fitz an Australian citizen? I know he and his family emigrated to New Zealand from Cornwall and he started his official boxing career in Australia, but my memory's hazy on the details.
I'm pretty sure he took put American citizenship, not sure about Australian.BTW I took "Down Under" to mean NewZeland also-from where I'M standing!(Ireland)
Interesting question re Fitzsimmons.
Did a quick read and, it seems, prior to 1948 and the establishment of the first legal categorisation of an Australian "citizen", Australian "citizens" were simply British Subjects - which Fitz was, of course, in the first instance.
For all intents and purposes, Fitz still might be deemed an "Aussie" (even if not properly legally defined as such at that time) if one perceives Fitz's "formative" years (those years in which surrounding influences contributed most to the ultimate fighter that Fitz became) as those he spent being trained and fighting in Australia.
Interesting stuff. That being the case, he'd obviously be the top dog.
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