hype igoe

[iskigoe]

05-17-2006, 03:26 PM #107
Ted Spoon
Registered User


Join Date: Mar 2006 Paper reports only tell half the story...if that

Im getting a little lost Ive been through newspapers . com , google a few yrs , and read a few books . Seems I cant go much futher with out a little
I would like as you know to try to get Hype into the H.O.F. . Is there a process I must follow , things I must do ,things I must know please help

In the past few weeks posting here , no one here seems to think Hype does not fit the profile for the H.O.F. . Just that this happens . what steps can I take to help get him in. Ranting and raving in my posts will only help me get futher from my goal . Please help show me the way

IGOE H.O.F.

[BDeskins]

Another writer/artist that I would like to see remembered is Ted Carroll, one of the first, if not the first African-American writer for Ring Magazine.

[iskigoe]

I will try to read some of his work its nice to remember the writers of the past .

Joe Louis credited Hype Igoe for helping get african american writers into his fights . He said before this they were not allowed in with the press.

Things like that should make you a hall of famer dont you agree

Hype Igoe H.O.F.

[phlboxarc]

Ted Carrol was the greatest boxing artist of all-time ! He was also the best boxing analyst I ever read, always giving the boxers who "fought them all" the credit they deserved i.e. Angott, Rosenbloom, Gavilan, Yarosz, Overlin, Giardello, Maxim, Griffith, Midget Wolgast, Bettina, Harold Johnson, etc.

[BDeskins]

>>>Ted Carrol was the greatest boxing artist of all-time ! He was also the best boxing analyst I ever read, always giving the boxers who "fought them all" the credit they deserved i.e. Angott, Rosenbloom, Gavilan, Yarosz, Overlin, Giardello, Maxim, Griffith, Midget Wolgast, Bettina, Harold Johnson, etc<<<

I agree...I really enjoy reading the articles that Carroll wrote and his art is great. There's another writer/artist who's name slips my mind right now, but he was really good also and did a lot of writing/illustrations in the teens and twenties...he was a real popular writer, but I've just gone blank trying to figure out who he is.

[iskigoe]

Hey maybe it was Hype Igoe

Just kidding Tad Dorgan was said to be very popular around that time . Most cartoonists and artists either learned or worked for him at some time . Hype and Tad went to the same high school in san fran . I believe if my research is correct Jim Corbett and the Britt bros also went there .

Hype wrote . There were many days Jimmy his mgr brother Willie and myself were a parly to the making of jimmys earlist 13 yr old fights .There were two kids in the school we attended who got it stuck in their noodles they could lick Jimmy Edward Britt.

One was Stanly Horan now a tax collector in san fran . If he has been spared . The other was Jimmy Lawler , later a professional fighter. It was my duty each afternoon , after school to splice Jimmys right hand behind his back in order to bring Horan's proficicney up to parity with Britt's . Horan wouldnt have had a chance with Jimmy otherwise .Lawler was a better fighter than Horan and did not ask to have Jimmys right moored to his spine .

Lawler and Britt used to fight in the ally two blocks from school and this fued which went on day after day only to be broken up by the police , produced some of the greatest fighting I ever looked upon.

Then Jimmy joined the Olympic Club and became their star amature lightweigth

Hype Igoe H.O.F.

[BDeskins]

The fellow I was thinking about was Robert Edgren...he had some really nice illustrations during his time writing.

[iskigoe]

Seems there were two Bob Edgren's . Bob sr was a contemprary of Hype's
also an athlete did some sparrng with Jim Corbett . Corbett and Bob sr had
a long standing fued about something Bob wrote about Corbett . Edgren wrote Jeffries had knocked Jim out while sparring . Everyone else there said it was untrue but Bob stuck to his story for years .

In one of his article's he took Jeffries to see Willard before hisfight with Dempsey . He quoted Jeffries as saying Dempsey would have to be twice as good to beat Willard . Guess he was .

Edgren came through the same school as many of the great writers of his time . He grew up in C.A. started in San. Fran. and then to New York .
What a great time to be a sports writer .

Dont know which Edgren you meant but I read that his son jr went on to be a writer and artist.

thanks for some great reading now Ill have to look up Ted Carrol.

Hype Igoe H.O.F.

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Tad was also a cartoonist (the earliest one for boxing, as far as I know, along with Bob Edgren).

See W C Heinz' Fireside Book of Boxing. He includes some of Tad's cartoons.

And I'm sure he must have a least one column by Igoe in there.

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That is sickening. And no Bob Edgren.

It is a wiping out of past history.

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You can hear Hype Igoe's voice (saying one sentence) on this:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/fight/s..._1938_pre.html

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No Grantland Rice?

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Herbert Aloysius Igoe (1878 - 1945)

http://www.askart.com/askart/artist....rtist=11004529

Born in Santa Cruz, CA in 1878. "Hype" Igoe studied art under Maria Van Vleck while a student at Polytechnic High School in San Francisco and continued at the Mark Hopkins Art Institute. He began his career there during the late 1890s as a copy boy for the Examiner. He later joined their art department as a cartoonist of sporting scenes. He was a resident of San Francisco until the earthquake of 1906. He then moved to NYC where he continued with the Hearst papers as a sports writer. He died there on Feb. 11, 1945. Exh: SF Newspaper Artists, 1903.

Source:
Edan Hughes, "Artists in California, 1786-1940"
City Directory; SF Chronicle and NY Times, 2-12-1945 (obits).

Nearly 20,000 biographies can be found in Artists in California 1786-1940 by Edan Hughes and is available for sale ($150). For a full book description and order information please click here.

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http://thering-online.com/ringpages/cover2.html

Lead Story: With the Louis-Braddock bout looming, Hype Igoe took a look at “The Schmeling-Braddock Aftermath,” detailing the fallout from Braddock’s decision not to defend the heavyweight crown against top contender Max Schmeling. The New York State Athletic Commission fined Braddock $1,000 for his avoidance of the German, and Louis then agreed to defend his title against Schmeling if he bested Braddock. Or, as Igoe put it, “Joe Louis dropped right out of the heavens with a keg of oil under each arm to appease the troubled waters.”

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duplicate

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Guide to the San Francisco Academy of Comic Art Collection :

Newspaper Comic Strips

Series III: Individual Artists

http://dlib.lib.ohio-state.edu/cga/dorgan_file.html

Thomas Aloysius Dorgan (TAD), 1899-1929

The following folders contain, unless otherwise noted, tearsheets with sports cartoons; editorial cartoons; topical cartoons; spot illustrations; one-shot comic strips; classified advertisement cartoons; and illustrations, cartoons, and puzzles for the children's pages.



SFT57-1
The Bulletin (San Francisco)
July 4-19, 1899


SFT57-2
The Bulletin (San Francisco)
August 3-27, 1899


SFT57-3
The Bulletin (San Francisco)
September 3-25, 1899
Also includes work by Frederick Burr Opper.


SFT57-4
The Bulletin (San Francisco)
October 1-31, 1899


SFT57-5
The Bulletin (San Francisco)
November 5-29, 1899


SFT57-6
The Bulletin (San Francisco)
December 3-31, 1899


SFT57-7
The Bulletin (San Francisco)
April 2-27, 1900


SFT57-8
The Bulletin (San Francisco)
May 1-29, 1900


SFT57-9
The Bulletin (San Francisco)
June 3-29, 1900


SFT57-10
The Bulletin (San Francisco)
October 6-31, 1900


SFT57-11
The Bulletin (San Francisco)
November 4-28, 1900


SFT57-12
The Bulletin (San Francisco)
December 2-30, 1900


SFT57-13
The Bulletin (San Francisco)
September 22, 1901; November 10, 1901


SFT57-14
The Bulletin (San Francisco)
January 19, 1902; March 23, 1902


SFT57-15
The Bulletin (San Francisco)
May 10 - June 28, 1903


SFT57-16
The Bulletin (San Francisco)
Unknown


SFT57-17
Photographs
April 1905; 1909; May 1926
Photographs of Dorgan posing in various costumes; with other cartoonists and Jack Johnson at the signing of articles between Johnson and James Jeffries; with unidentified man (possibly a brother).


SFT57-18
various newspapers
December 9, 1925 - May 9, 1929


SFT58-1
Chicago American
July 22, 1910


SFT58-2
Los Angeles Examiner
April 1907- November 1916
Other artists include Gus Mager.


SFT58-3
Los Angeles Herald
November 1, 1927


SFT58-4
New York American
July 20-21, 1907


SFT58-5
New York Journal
December 1906; February 1, 1908; September 2, 1909


SFT58-6
New York Journal
December 11, 1911; April 17-18, 1913; October 22, 1914
Panel on October 7 includes illustrations by Dorgan, Walter Hoban, Winsor McCay, George McManus, Hal Coffman, Harry Hershfield, T.E. Powers and Milt Gross.


SFT58-7
New York Journal
July 10-December 11, 1915


SFT58-8
New York Journal
March 2, 1922


SFT58-9
New York World
May 9, 1920


SFT58-10
Oakland Tribune
March 23, 1907


SFT58-11
The Sun and New York Herald
May 9, 1920


SFT58-12
San Francisco Examiner
February 15-19, 1905; January 12-November 24, 1909
Other artists include T. E. Powers and Nell Brinkley.


SFT58-13
San Francisco Examiner
January 5 - April 10, 1910; July 4, 1911


SFT58-14
San Francisco Examiner
August 13 - December 24, 1912
Other artists include Hal Coffman.


SFT58-15
San Francisco Examiner
January 6 - May 26, 1913


SFT59-1
San Francisco Call
September 1-30, 1913


SFT59-2
San Francisco Call
October 1-31, 1913
Other artists include Harry Murphy, Hal Coffman, and A. E. Fera.


SFT59-3
San Francisco Call
November 3-28, 1913
Other artists include Harry Murphy and Hal Coffman.


SFT59-4
San Francisco Call/San Francisco Call and Post
December 1-31, 1913
Other artists include Harry Murphy. On December 9, there is an advertisement for a Daffydil scarf pin.


SFT59-5
San Francisco Call and Post
January 1-31, 1914
Other artists include Harry Murphy and Will Porter.


SFT59-6
San Francisco Call and Post
February 2-28, 1914
Other artists include Harry Murphy and Will Porter.


SFT59-7
San Francisco Call and Post
April 3-30, 1914


SFT59-8
San Francisco Call and Post
May 1-30, 1914


SFT59-9
San Francisco Call and Post
June 1-30, 1914
Other artists include Harry Murphy.


SFT59-10
San Francisco Call and Post
July 1-31, 1914
Other artists include Harry Murphy and Hal Coffman.


SFT59-11
San Francisco Call and Post
August 1-31, 1914
Other artists include Hal Coffman.


SFT60-1
San Francisco Call and Post
October 1-15, 1914


SFT60-2
San Francisco Call and Post
October 16-31, 1914


SFT60-3
San Francisco Call and Post
November 2-30, 1914
Other artists include Nell Brinkley.


SFT60-4
San Francisco Call and Post
December 1-15, 1914


SFT60-5
San Francisco Call and Post
December 16-31, 1914


SFT60-6
San Francisco Call and Post
January 1-30, 1915


SFT60-7
San Francisco Call and Post
February 1-13, 1915


SFT60-8
San Francisco Call and Post
February 15-27, 1915


SFT60-9
San Francisco Call and Post
March 1-15, 1915


SFT60-10
San Francisco Call and Post
March 16-31, 1915


SFT60-11
San Francisco Call and Post
April 1-14, 1915


SFT60-12
San Francisco Call and Post
April 16-29, 1915


SFT60-13
San Francisco Call and Post
February 5; November 17,


SFT60-14
San Francisco Call and Post
October 1, 1918; October 2, 1919
Other artists include Nell Brinkley and Robert Ripley.


SFT60-15
San Francisco Call and Post
November 29, 1920; August 1, 1921


SFT60-16
San Francisco Call and Post
April 29, 1922; October 26, 1922
Other artists include Hype Igoe.


SFT60-17
San Francisco Call and Post
November 25, 1924


SFT60-18
San Francisco Call and Post
June 6, 1925; December 1-2, 1925


SFT60-19
San Francisco Call and Post
February 11-December 25, 1926
Other artists include Jimmy Hatlo.


SFT60-20
San Francisco Call and Post
March 30, 1927; January 20, 1928; May 3, 1929

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http://dlib.lib.ohio-state.edu/cga/h...1000/0995.html

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http://www.golfdigest.com/newsandtou...1joelouis.html

As an undefeated 22-year-old heavyweight contender, Louis had hardly seen a golf course until the weeks before his first fight with Schmeling in 1936. Introduced to the game by two sportswriters, Hype Igoe and Walter Stewart, he even left his Lakewood, N.J., training camp two weeks before the fight to spend a day at that year's U.S. Open at Baltusrol. When not sparring, as recalled in David Margolick's Beyond Glory, he sneaked off to play golf so often that Schmeling's manager, Joe Jacobs, saw it as a weakness.

"He's even cut out his road work to play golf every morning," Jacobs snorted. "Get a load of that, will ya? Golf!" Instead of discussing boxing during a conversation with a Detroit sportswriter before that fight, Louis talked "all golf: stances and grips and hooks and slices." In a stunning upset, Schmeling knocked him out in the 12th round. But he never blamed his sudden fascination with golf for that loss, and for the rest of his life he played whenever and wherever he could.

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http://www.astorialic.org/starjourna...945april.shtml

The second round of a battle which allegedly starts in the streets on Easter Sunday is fought in Flushing court and ends in the filing of cross-complaints of assault by members of two prominent Bayside families. The bell for the third round will be sound on May 23 when hearings will be held on the complaints. Parties ot the battle are the widow and two daughters of the late Hype Igoe, noted sports and boxing writer, and Mrs. Isabelle Coffe, a niece of councilman Hugh Quinn of Flushing.

The hearing lasted from 10:30 AM to 3 PM before magistrate DeAndrea but brief intervals for lunch and cooling off, centers over the affections of Corporal Robert Borgsted, 24.

Mrs. Coffe, 20, charges that Mrs. Igoe and her daughters slugged her near her home on Easter Sunday after accusing her of stealing the corporal's affections. Corporal Borgstedt assumes a hands-off attitude saying at one point all he wants is to get out of the whole mess. No formal charges are filed before the court, neither is there a record of testimony.

Perhaps they should have gone to Keith's in Flushing to see the nine o'clock revue with radio's #1 jive bomber, Bob Howard headlining five big acts! Merle Oberon and Lawrence Olivier in Wuthering Heights, James Cagney and Ann Sheridan star in Torrid Zone. Benny Cowham is at the organ.

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as famed sportswriter of the day Hype Igoe wrote "White is like the artist who can't resist the temptation of stepping back and admiring his incompleted work."

http://www.answers.com/topic/charley-white

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The Ring was launched on Feb. 15, 1922, as a newsletter covering the sport in New York. American promoter Tex Rickard financed the publication with Nat Fleischer as founding editor. In 1925, The Ring began to issue its own world ratings. By 1927, The Ring was widely read and highly respected, thanks to Fleischer who solicited articles from renowned scribes like Damon Runyon and Hype Igoe. Fleischer’s editorial column became known as the conscience of the fight game.

http://www.newsflash.org/2003/05/pe/pe002779.htm

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"...If Battling Nelson had been in Leach Cross's bootslast night he would have been just as much a fool. There is simply no use trying to hit this curly headedWelshman...He can make anybody miss, and the beautyof hiswork is that he can make a man come plunging in even though his efforts are bound to end up in a tangle of ropes and empty air. And, as a Popular shot, well, Jem doesn't know what it is to miss....the whole town is fired up over the "Welsh Wizard".-Hype Igoe. Milwaukee Free Press. February 12,1909.

http://www.antekprizering.com/driscollstory.html

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Hype Igoe speaks on Leo Lomski

(Tacoma News Tribune, November 15, 1927)

By Dan Walton

Hype Igoe, veteran boxing writer of the New York Morning World, rates Leo
Lomski, Aberdeen lightheavy, as the greatest all-around fighter in the world
today. Igoe has seen the best of them for years and years and his opinion is
a real compliment to the Aberdeen kid. Here's what Hype says about Leo in
his column, "Pardon My Glove":

"Do you want to know my opinion as to which of the youngsters in any
division looms up like a world beater? Then I'll tell you. It is Leo Lomski,
the fellow who gave Yale Okun the worst body beating any man has taken in a
New York ring since Johnny Marto battered Phil Cross into retirement. They
don't fight the body these days as Marto did, and Lomski, in a way, is the
nearest approach to Steve Ketchel, so far as body punching goes, that has
come along. All told, he is the BEST fighter in the country today.

"My back is to the wall on that and in the rush of enraged managers I see
coming at me are Pete Reilly, Jimmy Johnston, Leo Flynn, Eddie Kane, Eddie
Long, Eddie Sears, Charley Harvey, George Lawrence, Joe Woodman, Johnny
keyes, Joe Mulverhill, Johnny Cox, Abe Katz, Abe Matin, Billy Gibson, Paddy
Mullins, Tom Fahey, all of them. Come one, come all. If you drive my back
through the wall, my last chirp will be: 'LEO LOMSKI IS THE BEST ALL-ROUND
FIGHTER IN THIS COUNTRY.'"

Leo is in line for a title bout with Tommy Loughran, the 175-pound champion.
Loughran, a clever fellow, who generally makes his opponent "look bad," is
of the type that figures to beat Lomski, and if it were not for the chance
at winning the title, it would be a bad match for Leo to take.

Considering Mickey Walker's recent kayo victory over Mike McTigue, the
middleweight champion and Lomski would be a "natural" battle for New York,
but there is little chance for such a match there in view of the fact that
Walker is the middleweight champion and would have to make the middleweight
poundage if he boxed in New York.

There also is some talk of a match between Lomski and Tiger Flowers. Leo
holds a disputed decision over the "deacon." Flowers with his awkward style
is rather a hard guy to fight, but Leo is bigger and better than he was when
he met the negro before and might score an even more decisive victory over
Flowers. One thing about it is that a hard, straight socking puncher is the
kind of fighter to beat the "Tigah" and Leo is all of that. Leo's right
smash to the heart is his best punch and it figures to slow up Flowers as he
comes tumbling in to the attack.

http://members.tripod.com/bawli/bawli2/bawli47.html

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http://www.skybook.com/alltimegreats_boxing_louis.asp

Hype Igoe, . . . in the Feb. 1941 issue of Ring Magazine, stated "It has been my contention that had Louis always fought with a rush, as he did against Schmeling, none of his opponents would have gotten out of the first round."

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Tad Dorgan
(Thomas Aloysius Dorgan)
(29/4/1877 - 2/5/1929, USA)

When he was thirteen years old, Thomas Aloysius Dorgan lost the last three fingers of his right hand in an accident with a factory machine. While recuperating, he drew a lot of cartoons as manual therapy. A year later, he found himself a job as staff artist on the San Francisco Bulletin. In 1902, he was employed by the prestigious San Francisco Chronicle, where he created his first weekly comic strip, 'Johnny Wise'. He was hired away by newspaper tycoon William Randolph Hearst and put to work at the New York Journal as a sports cartoonist.

Soon he was loved by the public, not only for his sports features, but also for his prose (he wrote a column called 'Daffydills') and his cartoon gags about dogs, of which 'Judge Rummy' was the best known. Eventually, the dog comics ran under the title of 'Silk Hat Harry's Divorce Suit', accompanied by a one-panel gag series called 'Indoor Sports'. Due to ill health, Dorgan had to retire in the early 1920s. He died of a relatively minor case of pneumonia in 1929.

http://www.lambiek.net/artists/d/dorgan_t.htm

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Here are a bunch of Tad's cartoons.

http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...an&sa=N&tab=wi

Click on each image for an enlargement.

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Photo of Tad Dorgan

[iskigoe]

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WOW have you been working for me . Great stuff thanks alot

Igoe

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iskigoe.

I did that for my own interest in Igoe and TAD.

Thanks for bring them up.

The fact that hacks like Barney Nagler and Sugar are in the so-called Hall of Fame while TAD, Edgren, Igoe, W O McGeehan, Grantland Rice, Paul Gallico, etc

are not

shows how political such organizations are.

That is pathetic.

[mike]

iskigoe.

I did that for my own interest in Igoe and TAD.

Thanks for bring them up.

The fact that hacks like Barney Nagler and Sugar are in the so-called Hall of Fame while TAD, Edgren, Igoe, W O McGeehan, Grantland Rice, Paul Gallico, etc

are not

shows how political such organizations are.

That is pathetic.

exactly