The 50 greatest fighters of all time pound for pound

[dmt]

Anyway here we go:

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Sam Langford
4. Roberto Duran
5. Harry Greb
6. Benny Leonard
7. Joe Gans
8. Ezzard Charles
9. Archie Moore
10. Eder Jofre
11-12-tie- Willie Pep and Sandy Saddler
13. Muhammad Ali
14. Joe Louis
15. Bob Fitzimmons
16. Sugar Ray Leonard
17. Jimmy Wildie
18. Marvin Hagler
19. Carlos Monzon
20. Jose Napoles
21. Alexis Arguello
22. Barney Ross
23. Tommy Hearns
24. Jack Dempsey
25. Rocky Marciano
26. Perenell Whitaker
27. Julio Cesar Chavez
28. George Dixon
29. Gene Tunney
30. Tony Canzoneri
31. Larry Holmes
32. Carlos Zarate
33. Michael Spinks
34. Mickey Walker
35. Emilie Griffith
36. Mike McCallum
37. Charley Burley
38. Jimmy McLarrin
39. George Foreman
40. Joe Frazier
41. Evander Holyfield
42. Salvador Sanchez
43. Azumah Nelson
44. Wilfredo Gomez
45. JOE Waclott, Barbados
46. Billy Conn
47. Bob Foster
48. Roy Jones jr
49. Oscar De La Hoya
50. Ike Williams

[dmt]

any thoughts or changes i should make?

[dmt]

personally i think Gans is very underated today

[GorDoom]

I think you have the start of a very good list. My only suggestions: Roy Jones, Mike McCallum, Oscar - & I know this will be controversial, Jose napolez don't belong on the list in my view.

& Eder Jofre is ranked WAY to low even at # 10.

GorDoom

[kikibalt]

Joe Louis is way,way to low on your list Imo.

Frank B.

[PeteLeo]

Dempsey over Sweetpea Whitaker? Don't ever tell Max Kellerman where you live -- he'll firebomb your house. PeteLeo.

[Sharkey]

Bring him on.

[hawk5ins]

I have Whitaker over Dempsey as well.

Please don't tell me this puts me on Mad Max's level.

Hawk

[dmt]

oh come on, i just rated dempsey a bit higher than Pea

[Right Cross]

Overall this list is a pretty good one IMHO. I think I'd rate Eder Jofre, Jimmy Wilde, and Salvador Sanchez a little higher. Gene Tunney would go higher than Dempsey, he did beat him twice. Tunney is one of the most underrated and underappreciated fighters ever in my book.

[dmt]

yes tunney is underated although dempsey was past his prime when tunney beat him

[Fat Abbot]

Can't see how anyone could seriously put Frazier over a Roy Jones p4p. Frankly it's hard to justify ranking Ali over Jones p4p.

Larry Holmes better p4p than Spinks? Not a chance.

[Sharkey]

Ike Williams may have been a bit better than merely a bit better than #50.

[hawk5ins]

I thought you hated lists?

or was that numbers?

Hawk

[Sharkey]

That show sucks.

[hawk5ins]

That was one of those shows that I said to myself, "it looks like it sucks so I won't bother."

What an open mind I have.

Hawk

[walshb]

p4p is a fun but never to be proven list.
The greatest heavyweight if we can agree on this
is the greatest fighter tha ever lived, that's fact.

Outside of the heavies, debate until the 'cows come home'

[ultimo]

p4p is a fun but never to be proven list.
The greatest heavyweight if we can agree on this
is the greatest fighter tha ever lived, that's fact.

Outside of the heavies, debate until the 'cows come home'

i can relate WalshB. It's all based on preferences anyhow. and besides, anyone in this business can call themselves an expert.