Originally Posted by walshb
WalshB you know I agree with you 90% of the time but sometimes we disagree. Same with Hawk and others. I personlly like anyone that knows there stuff, and most on this board do. Including you.
Now as for your lousy statment..about his suspect chin
Here is my analogy for that. Again, this is all opininions, so you have yours, I have mine, but somewhere to take decent intelligent dialogue people have to have accepted basics, or norms. In this case a suspect Chin.
We may suspect one of having a suspect chin, but if the fighter goes 45 fights with only being knocked down once, and he got up, handled the knockdown like a professional and went on to dominate the fight, and fought naturally at middleweight, then moved up to super middle, lightheavy and then fought a heavy who out weighed him by 30 pounds at least, and took his shots too, no knockdowns etc... But yet and still we say "WITHOUT ANY FACTUAL EVIDENCE, AND BECAUSE WE SIMPLY SUSPECT THIS" that Roy always had a suspect chin, and had nothing to do with his losing muscle rapidly (contrary to what hawk or anyone says he did lose at least 15 pounds muscle rapidly), even though all of a sudden one of the most gifted athletes ever and best conditioned, a athlete who previously played ina semi pro basketball game the same day as having a championship fight..all of a sudden for the first time ever is having issues with Stamina. Then he gets knocked out twice in a row. This same fighter never is able to put punches together again in the manner of Old Roy, never has the instincts again, looks slow and average...But somehow his suspect chin and skills diminishing has nothing to do with what happened after the Ruiz Fight. Wow.......Lets instead of saying haterism..lets say hmmm it is being Wow..I dont know what to call it.
I guess we can say that since Roy had a suspect chin, even though he was never seriously hurt before he turned 34 and had the issues with moving from heavyweight to lightheavy.. I guess we can use the same analog and say Ali was not all that good, he just never met anyone that could be him. Or Duran was not that great at lightweight he just never faced good fighters that would expose him... Leonard was not that fast, he just never faced anyone faster than him. Same thing Roy chin was suspect he just never met anyone the hurt him seriously.
Not making anysense. You can say the same thing for anyfighter. Roy freakin moved up and fought fighters who weighed 160 to 223,,and hmmm how many stoppages did he have until he had to lose weight rapidly?