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    Art "Golden Boy" Aragon/Charlie Sawyer Jan. 31, 1959..

    "Headlines ARAGON IN TROUBLE AGAIN; 4-ROUND 'KAYO' A FIASCO, Los Angeles-A four -round fiasco with his ex-sparring partner has plunged Art Aragon into hot water with the boxing commission and has cost him a shot at Don Jordan's welterweight title. The State Athletic Commission has ordered both fighter's purses held up pending a hearing Saturday of Aragon's knockout of Charlie Sawyer. "As soon as they started there movements in the first round, I knew something was wrong." said Tommy Hart, who refereed the scheduled 10-rounder Saturday night at Legion Stadium. Hart refused to count three times in the first round when Sawyer hit the deck. "It was just horseplay," said Hart. "Sawyer got hit on the shoulder and went into his elevator act." RUMORS BEFORE FIGHT. However, Hart conceded that Sawyer was really tagged when he went down and was counted out in the fourth. (Commission Secretary Clayton Frye told United Press International today that Sawyer "was trying to go down, it was obvious. (Aragon, a veteran of 16 years in the pro fight game, was convicted in 1957 of offering another fighter, Dick Goldstein, $500 to throw a fight, but a California District Court of Appeals subsequently reversed this conviction. ("There were rumors about the fight," Frye said, "and both boxers were warned at the weigh-in...We simply wanted to put them on notice that we wanted the best effort." Aragon, who could have won a shot at the welter title with a good showing, said the fight was on the up-and-up as far as he was concerned. "I'm not responsible for what Sawyer does," "I'm not the matchmaker." Sawyer, a 10-year ring veteran, said "Those knockdowns were good. Did the referee want me to get killed?" Sawyer worked as a sparmate for Aragon's ill-fated tilt with Carmen Basilio last September. Aragon said "Sawyer is washed up. That's what caused the trouble. I knocked him down with big gloves three times when i was training for Basilio."


    Frank, Do you remember this fight, like you said before, "when wasn't Art in trouble," never a dull moment with Golden Boy"

    I remember it Paul, I didn't see it though. Sawyer was Joe Kelly's fighter. Kelly was the door man at the Teamsters gym in the '50's, Kelly also was one of the last owner's of the Knockout Magazine...
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    Johnny Flores, Julio Flores, Memo Soto, Rick Farris, Duke Holloway
    1965 - The Main Street Gym - Los Angeles

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    By Randy De La O

    I'm no fan of Floyd Mayweather Jr, never have been and most likely, never will be. What I am is a fan of the sport of boxing. As difficult as that can be at times, especially when someone like Mayweather is involved, I do try my absolute best to put aside my own personal bias and dislikes and focus just on the fighter and the fights. It's not always easy. Saturday night's fight between Mayweather and Victor Ortiz is a good example. Coming into this fight I wanted Ortiz to put the trash talking Mayweather in his place. I wasn't 100% sure he could but I was rooting for him to pull it off. The other reason I was rooting for Ortiz was that I wanted to see the guy redeem himself. I was hoping he would prove once and for all, that his blatant quitting in the Marcos Maidana fight was an anomaly, just something that happened, a one time quirky act. I thought that Ortiz understood what true character was, and that he was going to work like hell to prove himself. Maybe position himself along side some of the great fighters of the past.

    Us guys from the West Coast and the L.A. fight scene are a proud bunch, We love our fighters and their exploits passionately. We have as rich a history in the sport as any town in the country, or the world too for that matter. We cherish and defend that history. The fighters that were either born here or came here to live and fight, range from the completely mediocre to the legendary. They trained at the Main Street Gym, the Teamsters Gym, the Hoover Street Gym and Canto Robledo's backyard gym. The names of these fighters stand with the best from anywhere in the world when it comes to courage, heart and fair play and they include fighters such as Manny Ortiz, Gil Cadilli, Kenny Teran, Art Aragon, Enrique Bolanos,Lauro Salas, Denny Moyer, Mando Ramos, Hedgeman Lewis, Randy Shields, Mando Muniz, Bobby Chacon, Danny "Little Red" Lopez, Rick Farris, Frankie Baltazar, Tony Baltazar, and more recently, Sugar Shane Mosley and Oscar De La Hoya. I couldn't begin to list them all. Guys like Ruben Olivares, Chucho Castillo, Jesus Pimental came north from Mexico to lay it on the line at the Olympic Auditorium and the Forum because they knew L.A. was a fight town like no other and appreciated a fighter worth his salt. Art Hafey headed south from Canada to Southern California, to jump into the midst of what has come to be known as the "West Coast Featherweight Wars". The West Coast has been a hot bed of boxing for decades and L.A. has been the epicenter of it all. We don't care what nationality you are, what color you are are what your religion is. If you can fight and are willing, and can take it as good as you can give, than you are our kind of fighter. it's as simple as that. We'll be with you all the way.

    Then along comes Victor Ortiz, wanting to stand tall with all the rest. Quit against Maidana and was given a second chance at a career. Positioned himself with one of the two pound for pound best fighters in the world, and was making a fight of it. Mayweather began picking up some steam and the fighter who has ironically come to be known as "Vicious" began to crumble. Ortiz had Mayweather against the ropes and was actually landing some good shots, when for reasons known only to him, he decided to take the low road with a headbutt so obviously intentionally a blind man would have had no trouble seeing it. Anomaly? No, lack of character, lack of true courage, a complete lack of fair play.

    Am I being too harsh here? I don't think so. Given that Ortiz had a shot at redemption and spit in our eyes in the process, I think he's getting off easy. The crowd at the Staples Center, judging by the boos for Mayweather seem to be excusing Ortiz' behavior. Mayweather did what any sane fighter would and should do when facing a man who has already shown himself to be a cheater. I would lay some pretty good money that many of the same people that think Floyd sucker punched Ortiz, were jumping for joy a few years back when, Marco Antonio Barrera, like Mayweather, took matters into his own hands and grabbed Nassem Hamed in a half nelson and rammed him face first into the ring post. I don't recall ever hearing of one fan that thought Barrera was in the wrong. Neither was Floyd Mayweather in the wrong. But for the headbutt there would have been no controversy or knockout, at least not that particular knockout.

    To borrow quote from Dorothy and "The Wizard of Oz", "Victor, you're not in Kansas anymore!"

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    Comedian and television star Redd Foxx joins his latest boxing prize, bantamweight Freddie Gonzalez
    after a fight.

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    California Boxing Hall Of Fame inductee, Kid Rayo has passed

    http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hum...3809&cat=boxer

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    The Campos brother's. Johnny Forbes fighters



    Frankie Campos

    division bantamweight

    alias The Fighting Barber

    country United States
    residence Los Angeles, California, United States

    won 19 (KO 10) + lost 9 (KO 4) + drawn 0 = 28
    rounds boxed 192 KO% 35.71


    1958-11-09 Pimi Barajas 16-7-1
    Mexicali, Baja California, Mexico L KO 8

    1958-10-31 Kildo Martinez 6-20-6
    Ciudad Obregon, Sonora, Mexico W PTS 10 10

    1958-10-04 Roque Fernandez 11-15-3
    Monterrey, Nuevo León, Mexico W KO 9 10

    1958-09-23 118 Raul Leanos 118 35-8-2
    Plaza de Toros, Torreon, Coahuila de Zaragoza, Mexico W KO 6 10

    1957-12-07 118 Billy Peacock 117¾ 36-16-1
    Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L TKO 8 12
    time: 2:36 | referee: Jimmy Wilson 63-68
    vacant USA California State bantamweight title
    A cut over Campos's right eye, led to the stoppage.

    1957-09-14 Pat Supple 29-1-1
    Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W PTS 10 10

    1957-08-31 118 Jose Luis Mora 118 12-6-0
    Mexico City, Distrito Federal, Mexico W KO 3 10

    1957-05-01 122 Jose Toluco Lopez 124 34-6-2
    Mexicali, Baja California, Mexico L PTS 10 10

    1956-12-13 Beto Couray 24-24-2
    Mexicali, Baja California, Mexico W PTS 10 10

    1956-09-29 Ernesto Parra 121 16-6-1
    Mexico City, Distrito Federal, Mexico L PTS 10 10

    1956-06-23 118 Ricardo Moreno 122 21-2-1
    Mexico City, Distrito Federal, Mexico L KO 4 10

    1956-05-18 117½ Pimi Barajas 119¾ 7-2-0
    Wrigley Field, Los Angeles, California, United States L SD 10 10

    1956-03-19 118½ Joey Benson 123 4-5-0
    San Francisco Gardens, San Francisco, California, United States L PTS 10 10 referee: Frankie Brown 54½-55½

    1956-03-09 Jorge Gabino Gomez 2-6-2
    Piedras Negras, Coahuila de Zaragoza, Mexico W PTS 10 10

    1956-02-22 121 Luke Sandoval 123 6-8-2
    San Francisco Gardens, San Francisco, California, United States W TKO 5 6

    1955-12-06 121 Joey Benson 121 4-2-0
    Auditorium, Richmond, California, United States W PTS 10 10
    referee: Ray Flores 59-51

    1955-11-09 122 Vic Eisen 122 23-12-3
    Auditorium, Oakland, California, United States W KO 2 10

    1955-05-12 119 Pimi Barajas 116½
    Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 10 10 Barajas was knocked down in the 3rd round.

    1955-02-10 118 Baby Moe Mario 118½ 21-6-4
    Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W TKO 3 10 Reported as first time Mario had ever been floored or stopped and as his first loss since 1953

    1954-10-30 117 Jackie Spurgeon 113 4-1-0
    Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W UD 10 10
    referee: Tommy Hart 60-50 | judge: Frankie Van 61-49 | judge: Russ Bradford 59-51

    1954-05-08 116½ Jesse Mongia 119¾ 26-6-0
    Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L UD 10 10
    referee: Charley Randolph 50-60 | judge: Dynamite Jackson 49½-60½ | judge: Reggie Gilmore 51-59

    1954-02-20 117 Jimmy Quinn 118 8-4-0
    Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W TKO 7 10
    time: 1:22 | referee: Frankie Van

    1953-12-26 115 Johnny Gonzalez 118 \
    Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W TKO 2 6
    Gonzalez was knocked down twice.

    1953-06-13 116½ Alex Fimbres 119½ 29-21-3
    Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L TKO 2 6

    1953-05-09 116½ Jimmy Quinn 118 4-1-0
    Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W TKO 3 4

    1953-04-18 George Jacquet 2-3-0
    Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W PTS 4 4

    1953-04-04 115 Alonso Aviles 116 0-3-0
    Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W TKO 2 4

    1953-02-14 115½ George Jacquet 116 2-0-0
    Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W PTS 4 4

    Pro debut for Campos, according to the Los Angeles Tribune



    Juan Luis Campos

    country United States
    residence Hollywood, California, United States

    won 12 (KO 6) + lost 7 (KO 5) + drawn 1 = 20
    rounds boxed 117 KO% 30

    1955-04-12 136½ Gilberto Muniz 137½ 23-11-5
    Ocean Park Arena, Santa Monica, California, United States L TKO 7 10 time: 2:51 | referee: Dynamite Jackson

    1954-11-15 135¼ Art Ramponi 135 14-4-1
    Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L TKO 6 10 time: 2:22 | referee: Tommy Hart

    1954-10-12 135 Ray Castro 134½ 11-2-0
    Ocean Park Arena, Santa Monica, California, United States W PTS 10 10 Castro was knocked down in the 9th round.

    1954-04-06 133 Buddy Evatt 132½ 13-0-0
    Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L KO 3 10 time: 1:11 | referee: Joe Stone

    1954-03-06 130 Fabela Chavez 131 46-21-5
    Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W SD 10 10
    referee: Abe Roth 54-56 | judge: Dynamite Jackson 56-54 | judge: Frank Holborow 56-54

    1953-12-19 129½ Fabela Chavez 128½ 46-21-4
    Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States D PTS 10 10
    referee: Reggie Gilmore 55-55 | judge: Frankie Van 52-58 | judge: Lee Grossman 55-55

    1953-06-27 129 Kenny Davis 127½ 5-1-2
    Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L TKO 6 10

    1953-04-18 129½ Chico Rosa 129½ 31-16-2
    Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L UD 10 10
    referee: Abe Roth 50-60 | judge: Lee Grossman 52-58 | judge: Frank Holborow 51-59

    1953-03-14 127 Javier Gutierrez 123½ 20-12-4
    Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W UD 10 10
    referee: Mushy Callahan 57-53 | judge: Joe Stone 57-53 | judge: Tommy Hart 56-54

    1952-12-27 126 Hector Rios 126 9-7-3
    Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W TKO 1 6
    time: 1:42

    1952-08-02 130 Freddy Bravo 130 3-5-3
    Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W SD 6 6

    1952-07-05 130 Bobby Garza 126 30-22-17
    Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L SD 6 6

    1952-05-24 Bobby Romo 16-11-8
    Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W PTS 6 6

    1952-04-19 132 John Richards 132¼ 5-15-4
    Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W UD 6 6

    1952-03-22 129 Chucho Mendoza 123½ 0-3-1
    Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W KO 3 6
    referee: Jimmy Wallace

    1952-02-08 129 Jimmy Dunn 130 27-23-3
    Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W TKO 5 6

    1952-01-11 127½ Johnny Malloy 129 14-7-1
    Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L TKO 6 6

    1952-01-04 128 Jimmy Dunn 129 27-21-3
    Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W TKO 3 6

    1951-07-20 126 Al Montalvo 126 0-1-0
    Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W TKO 1 4

    1951-06-29 128¼ Pete Aguirre 128¼ 1-0-0
    Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W KO 2 4

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cholo
    Art "Golden Boy" Aragon

    In spite of the obvious contempt which the greater portion of latin fans hold for him, Art already has been successful in swaying there emotions. It has only happened once and possibly will never happen again. That was when he faced Jimmy Carter for the crown. Sweating off valuable pounds from a body rippling with lean muscles so as to make the weight limit, Art blew his chances for success. But he fought one of the most valiant he-man matches ever seen on the coast. He was punished severly, he hit the canvas twice and the easiness by which Carter maneuvered around him made Art look sick. When the much -one-sided tiff came to an end Aragon's granite-like jaw almost rubbed his chest admitting defeat. Just before leaving the ring exploded the sweetest music ever heard by Aragon. The fight mob, sensing they had seen a hero in action, let go with a tremendous roar of effection for the man they had despised for so long. But Aragon couldn't take that standing up. He sat in his corner stool. Then he wept, he sobbed shaking in convulsions like a broken child..

    Frank, The Aragon/Carter title fight will be 60 years ago this November 14.
    I was there...I seen a very courageous fighter that night in Art Aragon....Art beat Carter in an earlier fight at a higher weight, but at 135 he was out of the fight after four rounds, he lasted the fifteen rounds just on courage and pride...Art was a very proud fighter at a time when fighters carried themselves
    like stars, and stars they were....I could have called him a great warrior, but I hate that word, seems to me like that word is overuse this days...

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    Tony Smaldino

    division featherweight

    country United States
    residence Los Angeles, California, United States

    won 11 (KO 3) + lost 7 (KO 4) + drawn 1 = 19
    rounds boxed 81 KO% 15.79


    1950-12-29 129 Javier Gutierrez 126 13-5-3
    Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L KO 2 6

    1950-12-01 128½ Chuck Wilkerson 128 18-21-2
    Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W UD 6 6

    1950-10-13 127 Jimmy Dunn 128½ 20-15-3
    Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L SD 6 6

    1950-09-26 128¼ Chuck Wilkerson 126½ 17-20-2
    Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L UD 6 6

    1950-08-25 125½ Fugi Rodriguez 128¾ 3-2-0
    Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States L TKO 5 6

    1950-07-14 125¼ Bobby Garza 121¾ 20-14-10
    Legion Stadium, Hollywood, California, United States W PTS 6 6

    1950-06-20 126¾ Bobby Garza 121½ 18-13-10
    Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 6 6

    1950-06-06 128 Bobby Garza 125 18-13-9
    Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States D PTS 4 4

    1950-05-02 127½ Dave Gallardo 126½ 25-6-4
    Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States L UD 6 6
    Smaldino was knocked down in the 1st round.

    1950-04-11 127 Manuel Hernandez 126 19-20-13
    Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W TKO 2 6
    referee: Jimmy Wilson
    Hernandez was knocked down once for an eight-count in the 2nd round.

    1950-04-04 127¼ Manuel Hernandez 128¼ 19-19-13
    Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W UD 6 6

    1949-06-06 124¼ Roosevelt Bonner 126 20-19-8
    Ocean Park Arena, Santa Monica, California, United States W UD 4 4

    1949-04-11 131 Tony Espinosa 130¼
    Ocean Park Arena, Santa Monica, California, United States L TKO 3 4
    Reported as "Tony Sparro" in Los Angeles Times.

    1949-04-05 125½ Benny Chavez 123½ 7-19-3
    Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 4 4

    1949-03-28 128¾ Chivo Amador 131 3-2-0
    Ocean Park Arena, Santa Monica, California, United States L TKO 4 4

    1949-03-22 126¾ Manuel Hernandez 121½ 12-11-7
    Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States W PTS 4 4

    1949-03-21 128½ Eddie Duane 123¼
    Ocean Park Arena, Santa Monica, California, United States W TKO 2 4

    1949-03-14 126 Cadillac Clemmons 128¼ 5-16-1
    Ocean Park Arena, Santa Monica, California, United States W PTS 4 4

    1949-03-04 125 Joe Rodriguez 121 0-1-0
    San Diego, California, United States W KO 1

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thed...ce_burned.html

    Tony Smaldino was an outstanding Golden Gloves boxer in the Los Angeles area. Although he began a professional boxing career, he supported himself by working as a pressman. He had every intent to continue his boxing career, but he was tragically murdered in the worst mass murder in Los Angeles history. On April 4, 1957, Clyde Bates and Manual Chavez were ejected from the Club Mecca bar in Los Angeles for pawing one of the female customers. They drove to a gas station, purchased 5 gallons of gas in a bucket, returned to the bar where Bates threw the gasoline on the floor of the bar; Chavez immediately threw in a lighted book of matches.

    Tony Smaldino, along with Gilbert Gonzalez (an apprentice chef at the prestigious Scandia Restaurant), Joe Maytorena (a retail supermarket checker), Jackie MacInnes (a waitress), Harry Robinson (retired), and Phil Crawshaw (a young man who had recently moved to LA from Seattle) were all murdered in the blaze that followed. To this day, the Club Mecca murder remains the worst mass murder in Los Angeles' history
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    Lauro Salas, the newly crowned lightweight champion, receives a kiss from his pretty wife, Angelina, also a champion in the art of tamale-making, as a reward for having won the title from Jimmy Carter after a grueling battle. Salas is shown reading George Main's account of the battle in The Herald and Express.
    May 15, 1952.

    Olympic Auditorium, Los Angeles, California, United States

    Jimmy Carter L Lauro Salas SD 15 15

    Gerald Dreyer W Baby Ike PTS 6 6

    Pete Aguirre W Ramon Carrillo PTS 4 4

    Dino Burns L Richard Minjares PTS 4 4

    Everett Vasquez W George Holmes PTS 4 4

    Marcus Vasquez W Billy Herrera PTS 4 4

    http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=58&cat=boxer

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    In 1952 Lauro Salas got his first title fight v Jimmy Carter after giving Art Aragon a terrific fight. Both at a Hollywood bar and at the Olympic Auditorium, I have heard lots of different versions of the bar fight, and all lean to Salas getting the best of Aragon, but who knows. The bar fight was played big in the local media and the powers that be at the Olympic knew they had a sell-out fight on their hands, the only problem was that Salas was really too small for Aragon, But Salas being Salas said he would fight Art at any weight, not sure, but I thing Art came in at 137 and Salas under 135. It was a great-close action fight and the unanimous decision went to Art, it was a good decision. Soon after that the Olympic was looking for a suitable opponent for Jimmy Carter to defend his title against, well they didn’t have to look no further then Lauro Salas, the fight was made and in front if a near sell-out crowd Salas again out-Salas himself. In both the Aragon and first Carter fight Salas fought way beyond his usual self. After a great fight and every close fight, the decision went to Carter, but a rematch had to be made. This time after a great and close fight the decision went to Salas, again a good decision. I am happy to say I seen live all three of the above fights.

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    Mando and Sylvia Ramos

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    Bobby Chacon v Danny "Li'l Red" Lopez

    Referee is John Thomas

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    Danny "Li'l Red" Lopez & Bobby Chacon

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    Flash Elorde...Great Flip fighter

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    A short story

    Going To The Fights…1951
    By Frank "kiki" Baltazar

    Eddie Gomez was watching a boxing match on a nineteen inch TV when his dad, Rudy, came in the house and told Eddie.

    “Eddie, look what I have here”

    “Pops, did you get some tickets for the title fight?”

    Eddie had been bugging his pop to take him to see the Art Argon vs Jimmy Carter lightweight title fight at the Olympic Auditorium for some time, his pop thought that Eddie; been twelve years old was too young to go to the fights.

    “Yes, Eddie, I bought four tickets, your uncles, Tony and Ray, will be going with us. Now I hope your mom doesn't get mad at me, she too thinks you are too young to go to the fights”.
    Eddie's mom, Lupe, was not too crazy to see Eddie going to the fights, but she did agree with Rudy; that their son would be disappointed if he was not allowed to go with his pop and uncles, so she gave her okay for Eddie to go.

    Eddie couldn't wait to find his best friend, Cheno Diaz, to tell him the good news. He found Cheno tending his two cows and one goat at a nearby pasture.

    “Cheno, my pops is taking me to see the Aragon and Carter title fight”,
    "Gee Eddie, you are lucky, wish I could go”.

    “I'll ask my pop if he can get another ticket for you. Cheno, you think your mom and pops would let you go?”
    “I'll ask them” said Cheno.,

    Eddie asked his pop if he could get a ticket for Cheno.
    “Yes, I'm sure I can get one, Eddie, you tell Cheno, that if his mom and pop say it’s okay for him to go; we'll take him with us”.

    Next day in school, Eddie told Cheno the good news.
    “Cheno, my pops said that he'll get you a ticket if your mom and pop say that's it’s okay for you to go”.
    “Eddie, mom and pop said I could go as long as your father was going, they trust your father, but not your uncle Ray, say he is crazy, that he himself will get into a fight at the fights”.
    “Yeah, Uncle Ray is a bit wild, especially when he is drinking beer, but pops won't let him drink too much, he'll be okay”.

    Two weeks later, they all piled into Rudy's 1946 Dodge and headed west from Simons on Washington Boulevard. Eddie and Cheno were so excited that they couldn't sit still and it was starting to bug Uncle Ray.
    “If you kids don't sit still, we are going to stop and drop you off here; and you are going to have to wait for us to pick you up after the fights” said Uncle Ray.
    “Leave them alone Ray, they are just excited to be going to the fights, after all, it’s their first time to see boxing live. You remember when you went for the first time and you got all crazy on us? wanting to fight everybody there” said uncle Tony.
    “Yeah, but I was drunk; and let me remind you that I was doing okay until that big guy cold-cock me and knocked me on my ass” uncle Ray laughed.

    The area was so pack that they had to park 3 blocks away. Eddie and Cheno were shadow boxing as they walked up 18th Avenue.
    “Hey Eddie, Cheno, you two want to become fighters? 'cause if you do, I'll train you guys” said Uncle Ray.
    “Ray, what the hell do you know about training fighters? Rudy asked Ray
    “Hey, Rudy, I have fighting experience”
    “Yes, you do but, its street fighting experience, and I don't think you ever won a fight”
    “At least I've never been ko, always finish on my feet” laughed Ray.

    As the group approached the front entrance of the Olympic, they started seeing movie and boxing celebrities hanging around the sidewalk of Grand Avenue.

    “Cheno! I see John Wayne and Pedro Armendariz” said the excitable Eddie
    “And over there is Rosemary Cooney and her husband Jose Ferrer” said Uncle Tony
    “I see Tommy Campbell, Frankie Muche, Bob Murphy, Enrique Bolanos and Freddie Babe Herman over there talking to two men” said Cheno
    “That's Cal Eaton and Babe McCoy they are talking to, they are probably talking about upcoming fights” said Rudy
    Before entering the Olympic, they all bought the Knockout program from Speedy Dado. Eddie and Cheno started getting autographs on their programs to show their friends in school the next day.

    They found their sits in the second to last roll in the peanut gallery. No sooner had they sat down when rolls of toilet paper started flying around, soon some ladies underwear were flying by. Eddie and Cheno started making paper plane and would fly them down to the ring.
    “This is fun, Eddie, thanks for bringing me” said Cheno
    “Thank my pop, Cheno, he is the one who bought your ticket”

    The fighters for the first fight came in the ring. Rudy, Tony and Ray started betting on the fights, they would bet one dollar on the white or black corner, whatever fighter went to the corner they had, that was their bet.
    The first fight was won by Al Galindo over Bobby Brewer, Rudy and Tony won a dollar each, Ray lost a dollar.
    Second fight was between Joey Gurrola and Sammy Figueroa.
    “Cheno, see that big guy in Figueroa's corner? That's big Jake Horn, he's a great trainer” said Eddie
    The fight ended in a draw.
    “Guess it didn't help Figueroa having Jake Horn in the corner, did it, Eddie? Cheno said, as he threw a roll of toilet paper.
    “He didn't lose did he?” said Eddie
    “Well no, he didn't”
    .
    After a couple of more fights it was time for the main event, Art Aragon and Jimmy Carter would be coming into the ring soon.

    Aragon looking weak is the first to come into the ring.
    “Aragon is going to lose” said Eddie
    “How do you know? Uncle Ray asked Eddie
    “Look how pale he looks, I read in the Mirror that he was having trouble making '35” said Eddie.
    Carter comes into the ring looking great. After both fighters have been gloved in the ring they are introduced by Jimmy Lennon, referee Mushy Callahan calls the fighters to the center of the ring for their instructions.
    The fight started fairly even for the first four rounds, from the fifth round on it was all Carter who won an easy 15 round unanimous decision.
    Right after the fight ended Uncle Ray wanted to leave.
    'Okay guys, our guy lost; so let’s get out of here”
    “No! We have to stay and watch Keeny Teran fight Bobby Garza, they are fighting a six rounder” said Eddie.
    “Ray, Keeny is the toast of the town, we have to stay and watch him fight” said Uncle Tony
    They stayed and watch Keeny win a unanimous decision.

    On the way home Uncle Ray asked Eddie and Cheno if they wanted to fight.
    “Guys, if you want to fight, I'll train you, after you train for a couple of months; I'll take you to the downtown CYO where Johnny Flores run the boxing program, I'm sure we can get you some sparring. Johnny is my friend and he'll help us out.
    “Ray, you don't even know Johnny Flores” said Rudy
    “Well maybe not, but I know where the CYO is at” laughed Uncle Ray

    Next day at school Eddie and Cheno were the toast of the school as they were holding court with their friends.
    “You should have seen Aragon land that left hook of his” said Cheno as he threw a left hook.
    “Too bad he didn't landed it enough” said Eddie
    “He was too weak from making weight”
    “He was” agree Eddie
    “But you should have seen that little Keeny Teran” Eddie and Cheno said in unison.
    “Guys, Cheno and I are going to start training next week, my uncle Ray is going to train us” said Eddie.

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    New York City, New York- 1982

    By Frank “kiki” Baltazar

    Frankie, Tony and I were in New York City for a meeting with Don King; Jimmy Montoya was also there among others. We had been there for about four days and Jimmy and I were dying for some Mexican food, we went out to find some. We were walking on 8th Avenue when we see a place with a big sign "Mexican Food-Burritos", we walked in and some Puerto Ricans are running the joint, we turned right around and walked out, we walked another block and we see an Italian place, we decided to go in and have some spaghetti and meatballs, we sat down and ordered, as we're sitting waiting for our food we could hear voices coming for the back of the place, I got up and walked to the back to check it out, there were about 4-5 guys shooting pool.

    "Just some guys shooting pool" I said to Jimmy.

    While we were eating Jimmy asked me if I had any money on me.
    "I got some, why?"
    "Lend me forty bucks" he said.

    When we finish eating we walked back to where the guys were shooting pool. Jimmy asked if he could play.

    "Sure, but we play for money"
    "That okay" said Jimmy.

    After 2-3 games Jimmy is down to his last ten bucks, he puts the ten bucks on one last game, he won the game.

    "I want a rematch" the guy tells Jimmy.
    "Sure, Jimmy said.
    Jimmy beats him again, two more games and the dude is broke.

    Another guy played Jimmy, Jimmy breaks him too after a few games

    Now the first guy Jimmy played is on the phone, twenty minutes or so later a guy walks in with a stick in a real fancy case.
    He got it on with Jimmy, while Jimmy is playing this guy the first one is getting drunk.

    Jimmy breaks this one too after a few games, by this time the first guy is stinking drunk, he could barely stand up, but he walked up to Jimmy and says to Jimmy.
    "You're good, but you drink too f*#king much"

    Jimmy won eight hundred bucks; he played and won with my forty bucks, so I got four hundred bucks.

    We were in New York City for a Don King press conference. It was to be held in a very fancy hotel. Men’s attire was suit and tie.
    As Jimmy and I were walking back to our hotel he said to me that he didn’t bring a suit.

    “Well. Jimmy, you just won four hundred’s bucks, buy one” I said to Jimmy.

    “Hey! I can do that; let’s find a Men’s store”

    We found one on 42th St. Jimmy looked at some suits and settle on a bluish one, if I remember right. The pants legs were alter in no time and we walked out of the store, Jimmy with a new suit.

    After getting all dressed up the following day in suits, ties and since it was a cold February afternoon; also in overcoats; we left to walk to the press conference.

    After a short walk in the snow we arrived at a very fancy hotel. We walked into a big ballroom where the press conference was to be held. We soon met Don King and he introduced us to actress/singer Eartha Kitt, actor/singer Gregory Hines, singer James Brown and Al Sharpton.

    As we were slipping out of our overcoats we started looking for our table, finding our table we sat down. We had been sitting for about twenty minutes when I happened to look at Jimmy’s suit sleeve; I leaned over and whispered in Jimmy’s ear: “Jimmy, look at your sleeve”. Jimmy looks at his left sleeve and right away he puts his arm under the table and starts pulling on the price tag he still had on the new suit sleeve.

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    frank,

    good story. i think i remember awhile back you posted a photo of jimmy in a suit. was that the one ?

    sounds like jimmy shot a good stick too. lucky he got away with his thumbs huh ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregbeyer View Post
    frank,

    good story. i think i remember awhile back you posted a photo of jimmy in a suit. was that the one ?

    sounds like jimmy shot a good stick too. lucky he got away with his thumbs huh ?


    Greg, here is Jimmy with his new suit..And yes, he shot a good stick...Looking back I think we were lucky to walk out of that joint alive.

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    right on frank. thanks for putting that up. do you still see jimmy ?

    greg

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregbeyer View Post
    right on frank. thanks for putting that up. do you still see jimmy ?

    greg
    No, I don't. Haven't see Jimmy in years. I think the last time I seen Jimmy was in the mid-90s..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cholo
    Art "Golden Boy" Aragon/Jimmy Carter, World Lightweight Title Fight Nov,14. 1951..
    Golden Boy Speaks.."His left hooks to the body hurt me the worst," "I thought I had him, though, in the second round after that hook to the chin. That was my best punch. But I couldn't follow it up, somehow. I think I was too weak at 134 1/4. Should never have gone under 135, but it just fell off at the end. Not sleeping good didn't help either." Somebody asked Art if he would continue fighting lightweight. "Why not?' 'he snapped, sounding a little more like the usual Aragon. "If I can't beat lightweights how am I going to beat welterweights?" Whom did he want to meet next? "Joe Louis" he almost shouted. Then his voice trailed off. "Not right now, though, nor anybody else. Man, am I sore and pooped!" Art took his battered head in his two hands, closed his good eye and sank back into a forlorn heap. The little group around him began melting away. That's the fight game.

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    Junior Golden Gloves Finals
    1964

    I had Romulo Ventura fighting Andy “The Hawk” Price in the finals of the 1964 Junior golden Gloves at the Valley Garden Arena, both were 12 years old, Andy gets in the ring first, we now make our way to the ring, Romulo starts his climb up the stairs, he puts one leg over the bottom rope and he sees Andy shadow boxing and looking like a minute Sugar Ray Robinson, Romluo turns around and looks me in the eye and said to me: “I don't feel like fighting tonight after all”.
    I gave Romulo a shove into the ring and told him: “he looks pretty, but can he fight?” Romulo fought that night and gave Andy a good scrap losing by decision.

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    andy price..... he had a strange career. for a while he was known for owning wins over both welterweight champs pipino cuevas and carlos palomino then he loses to jose baquedano. never figured andy out.

    he was a feared L.A amateur. i remember a trainer telling me it was time for andy to go pro because he was running out of amateur competition, rick farris however told me that he KO'D andy in the amateurs with a body shot..... just adds to the strange career of one andy price.

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    Welterweight Andy (The Hawk) Price, beaten only once in 23 pro fights, now is co-managed by Burt Reynolds (r) and TV's
    Six Million-Dollar-Man, Lee Majors, who hope to keep Price active. Andy has not fought since last March. He meets Rudy Barro
    in tomorrow night's 10-round main event at the Olympic. Hawk's record is 19-1-3. Photo dated: January 28, 1976.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gregbeyer View Post
    andy price..... he had a strange career. for a while he was known for owning wins over both welterweight champs pipino cuevas and carlos palomino then he loses to jose baquedano. never figured andy out.

    he was a feared L.A amateur. i remember a trainer telling me it was time for andy to go pro because he was running out of amateur competition, rick farris however told me that he KO'D andy in the amateurs with a body shot..... just adds to the strange career of one andy price.
    Greg, here is a interview with Andy Price

    http://www.doghouseboxing.com/DHB/Murphy111208.htm

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    Teamsters Boys Club boxers

    Found this dated photo (circa 1965). Far left, Tony Baltazar, third form left, Tony "Boo" Campa, fifth from left, Frankie Baltazar, the Teamsters honchos, far right in the white T's, left Arturo Cordova and Richard Ruby.

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    thanks frank,

    andy price sounds like a freindly , honest guy. glad he is well.

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    Mel Epstein & Mike Nixon

    I have been looking for this newspaper clipping, given to me by my late trainer Mel Epstein,
    for almost 15 years. I found it today while I was cleaning out the garage. I thought you might
    enjoy putting a face to all those stories Rick and I have told.

    From the San Francisco Examiner, dated August 23, 1971

    Randy De La O

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