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    Pernell Whitaker vs. Ricky Hatton (at 140 lbs.)

    Does Pea evade Hatton and hurt Hatton to win a decision or can Ricky
    get too close to Pea too often to spoil him and win a decision.
    Pea was so fast and elusive, but strong enough to deter Ricky?

    I think Hattons all out aggressive style, his stamina and punishing body attack could cause Pea problems. He will not give Pea a second to set himself up. I go with Ricky by decision or late TKO over 15 rds....

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    Re: Pea V Hatton 140lbs

    If Hatton is allowed to hug and wrestle at will, he may have a shot. Otherwise he'd be rendered useless and lose a lopsided unanimous decision.

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    Re: Pea V Hatton 140lbs

    Yes if he allows Pea time, he loses. That's Pea's strength. Hatton needs to apply steady controlled pressure. He is more than just a hugger I think.
    He is not that easy to hit and is so very strong. One thing is for sure, Pea will be fighting every second of every rd against a strong hard hitting fighter.
    I am not saying Hatton is in Pryor's league, but he has that all out non stop style that will give Pea problems. Fighters like Nelson and JC were brilliant, but a little too methodical and Pea loved this. Whirlwind fighters like Duran, Pryor and Hatton who all hit hard as well and have steel chins are the style I see beating Pea

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    Re: Pea V Hatton 140lbs

    Hatton's outside defense is poor. As soon as he allows distance between him and his opponent, he gets tagged and even hurt easily, even by non-big punchers. Eamonn Magee, Luis Collazo, and Juan Urango all had him visibly hurt with outside shots. Once on the inside, Hatton does not fight shoulder-to-shoulder, like a classicc inside fighter. Instead, he jumps in with one or two quick shots, and then relies on grabbing with one hand and hitting with the other until the referee steps in and breaks them. Someone actually counted he initiated a clinch every 11 seconds in the Urango fight! This is absolutely preposterous -and unnecessary- if you are fighting an opponent that is about ten times slower than you.

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    Re: Pea V Hatton 140lbs

    I agree that Hatton has the exact style needed to beat Pea. Now, whether he's quick enough to land flush enough to hurt him is another story. Chavez was past his prime and was able to catch Pea more than he is credited for, which brings up another point. Pea is tough to hurt, period.

    I favor Pea in a close bout without the cheerleader scorers, but a good Hatton performance against Castillo and then Floyd would definitely turn my opinion.

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    Re: Pea V Hatton 140lbs

    Roberto, I guess I too am waiting for Hatton to show me how good he is V Castillo or Cotto or Floyd. He definitely is a tough opponent for any style. He can outslug the sluggers and rough up th slick fighters. Pea is tough to hurt and hard to catch consecutively, but Pea still has to land on Hatton, who will be on top of him all night I'm thinking. No waiting around, just all out for 36/45 minutes. If Pea had a bigger punch, I'd bet on him definitely. I don't see him hurting Hatton or deterring the relentless Hatton style

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    Re: Pea V Hatton 140lbs

    Nelson was certainly not methodical against Whitaker.He marched after him relentlessly and actually ended up smothering a lot of his own work or being too off-balance to get his shots off.


    Hatton's pressure i doubt would bother Pea all that much.He'd pivot and jab his way to a comfortable decision win.

    Dave Boy Green would have a better chance of beating pea than Hatton.

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    Re: Pea V Hatton 140lbs

    Yes but Hatton was much more ferocious and relentless than Nelson or anything Pea has ever faced. And a harder hitter too, especially the body attack. I know Pea has the tools to frustrate Hatton and outbox him, but Hatton is a very clever fighter. He can adapt to beat an opponent, a bit like Duran. I suppose we will see how he gets on with Castillo and a few more different sytles of fighters. But so far he has beaten all comers, and loads of different styles

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    Re: Pea V Hatton 140lbs

    Unlike Kostya Tszyu, Whitaker can fight on the inside and in the clinches.

    Did we all miss Pea-Chavez?

    Did we all miss Pea-Vasquez?

    If Hatton wins more than two rounds it will be because Whitaker gives one away through some illegal showboating e.g. pulling down Hatton's pants, lifting up his leg and tapping him on the head, punching his head whilst in a headlock with a behind the back punch etc.

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    Re: Pea V Hatton 140lbs

    Easy points win for Whitaker.

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    Re: Pea V Hatton 140lbs

    Pre-Tszyu, Hatton was an exciting but vulnerable and wide-open brawler. Whitaker shuts that one out.

    Post-Tszyu, Ricky is a clutching, mugging, two shots and hold snore fest. Pea beats this one, too but will probably lose a couple of rounds to adjust before sweeping the final half.

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    Re: Pea V Hatton 140lbs

    Pea by clear decision- something like 117-112. He's way too slick and capable on the inside to allow Hatton to maul him . At his best, he was truly a wizard.

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    Re: Pea V Hatton 140lbs

    Quote Originally Posted by walshb
    Does Pea evade Hatton and hurt Hatton to win a decision or can Ricky
    get too close to Pea too often to spoil him and win a decision.
    Pea was so fast and elusive, but strong enough to deter Ricky?

    I think Hattons all out aggressive style, his stamina and punishing body attack could cause Pea problems. He will not give Pea a second to set himself up. I go with Ricky by decision or late TKO over 15 rds....

    I think Whitaker easily beats Hatton whether it be 12 rds or 15 rds.

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    Re: Pernell Whitaker vs. Ricky Hatton (at 140 lbs.)

    You are comparing one of the best lightweights/junior welterweights of all time (Pernell) with an over-hyped, one-dimensional hugger (Hatton). Get serious!

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    Re: Pernell Whitaker vs. Ricky Hatton (at 140 lbs.)

    Unfortunately they now both have something in common,

    fortunately one will be remembered as an ATG, not for past indiscretions.

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    Re: Pernell Whitaker vs. Ricky Hatton (at 140 lbs.)

    Not one of your finest Moments here Walsh.

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    Re: Pernell Whitaker vs. Ricky Hatton (at 140 lbs.)

    Quote Originally Posted by starlingstomp
    Not one of your finest Moments here Walsh.
    Definitely not, what was I thinking?

    Anyway, the first step to recovery is admittance!

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    Re: Pernell Whitaker vs. Ricky Hatton (at 140 lbs.)

    I don't think Hatton wins a round.

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    Re: Pernell Whitaker vs. Ricky Hatton (at 140 lbs.)

    Quote Originally Posted by mrbig1
    I don't think Hatton wins a round.
    Yep. I can definately get on board with that.

    Embarasing from the front to the back door. He is tailor made for a Whitaker masterpiece.

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    Re: Pernell Whitaker vs. Ricky Hatton (at 140 lbs.)

    Yeah, but what about even the Kostya winner? That night Hatton was
    pretty intense, still not great, but bags of fucking stamina, heat and rough as hell. Surely he could give a good account on this showing? Pea wouldn't be all that comfy facing that.

    Leave it, let if go, walshb!

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    Re: Pernell Whitaker vs. Ricky Hatton (at 140 lbs.)

    I am not sure if Pernell fought a long time at 140. Maybe he had like one fight there. Either way, Pernell is not a guy that gets pushed. He will stand in there and fire.

    But I see him sticking and moving, with the jab, which IMO is one of the top three all-time. I cannot see Hatton figuring that out.

    Against one of the top two southpaws all-time as well. Hatton will be getting embarrassed by round four.

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    Re: Pernell Whitaker vs. Ricky Hatton (at 140 lbs.)

    Pea was a world class HOF all time great. Hatton is NOT.

    End of story... As to the Tzsyu fight if Hatton hadn't had a ref completely in his pocket who allowed him to act like it was an MMA fight, there is no way it would have been the same fight.

    Lastly Tzsyu was coming off of two years of injuries a torn achilles tendon & a torn rotator cuff & he was 34. Hatton got lucky & caught him at the right time with the right corrupt ref.

    Hatton was NOT all that. Built up to be MUCH better than he actually was.

    GorDoom

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    Re: Pernell Whitaker vs. Ricky Hatton (at 140 lbs.)

    I agree with much of what you just said. the ref was deffinately lost. Still, I give him credit for the Tszyu fight and the Castilio fight. Hatton to me is a slight below Corrales in the all-time ranking.

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    Re: Pernell Whitaker vs. Ricky Hatton (at 140 lbs.)

    Oh sure, in a boxing match, Sweet Pea would certainly outclass Hatton.

    But, what about a coke snorting competition?

    I have Hatton by a nose.

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    Re: Pernell Whitaker vs. Ricky Hatton (at 140 lbs.)

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