Check out my new video Joe Frazier Super Beast.
In this video you will see how great Frazier is at slipping punches and how hard it is to hit someone punching down at them. Punching down is a bitch, Frazier was great at getting low, bobbing and weaving and slipping punches.
Frazier is the best of the swarming heavyweights in terms of his skill set as follows:
The Ultimate Swarmer:
1. Joe Frazier has the highest slip and duck rate among all heavyweights
2. His bobbing and weaving style made his opponents punch down at him which left them open to counters
3. Joe applied relentless consistent pressure
His Opponents Had 3 Choices:
1. Hold and clinch -when he would dig both hands to the body
2. Circle and move -when he would cut the ring and slip inside
3. Stand and fight, when opponents would be forced to rush their punches with no time to get set.
These skills make Joe Frazier the best of the great swarming style heavyweights against boxing stylists. That doesn't mean he would beat Jack Dempsey or even Mike Tyson or Rocky Marciano but he was the best at applying consistent pressure and cutting the ring. No one who doesn't have the punch to keep him off has a hope to beat him. He was great against boxers for the reasons stated above. Tommy Gibbons would never see the 15th round against Joe Frazier, although Frazier would never massacre Jess Willard the way Dempsey did. Dempsey and Tyson fought more in spurts. When I watch Dempsey he often follows boxers around, not cutting them off like Frazier does. He is better outside, quicker perhaps (although the clip at the beginning shows Joe on the speed bag- I havn't seen many faster), and Dempsey was a much faster starter than Joe and that might mean the difference head to head, but Frazier is so under- rated.
Smokin' Joe still does not get the credit he deserves for beating Ali. Ali was close to his prime, just turned 29 going into Superfight 1. It is not fair to say that the Ali who fought Frazier was past his peak, ill prepared or suffering from rust. Ali had two tune-up fights before facing Frazier, one of them a 15 round knockout of Oscar Bonavena. It was the only time in his career that Bonavena, who twice went the distance with Frazier, was ever stopped. Ali was not suffering from poor timing against Frazier, nor was he judging distance improperly, or lacking punching effectiveness, which are the usual signs of a fighter who is affected by lack of good training. The film bears this out clearly.
When did Ali ever look better than he did in the first five rounds of the ‘71 Frazier fight? Produce the film where Ali ever looked better. Ali was sitting down on his punches and he never hit harder. The Ali of the second round was as dominant as I ever saw him. He had the stamina to fight 15 rounds and get up from one of the best left hooks in history in the final round. What Frazier brought to the table was enough to give any version of Ali hell just as he did in all of their actual fights. In Manila Ali survived a brutal body beating, although the skill level of the two men did not come close to that achieved by them in fight 1. In Manila they could hardly miss each other. But the prime Frazier of 71 was one of the greatest fighters who ever lived and he beat an Ali that night who would have beaten most of the other all time greats.
I hope you enjoy my Frazier video.
Final note: Some of you might not like the music, but it matches the rhythm of the video and the lyrics also apply. It may not be to your taste, its not my favorite either but I choose music based on what I'm trying to say or achieve in the video. If you don't like it just turn it down, but please don't turn it off as it adds to the desired effect. (It's not rap at least ha!)