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    100 Boxing Books, I own, that I recommend:

    Recently putting in the effort to list Books that I have in my library and decided to list some Boxing Books that I recomend. Some not as strongly as others, but I think all have proven to have been valuable resources when I've done research in the past.

    I also own MANY SHITTY Boxing Books that I would not only never list, so as to not suggest anyone go and seek them out. Most are books I don't even want to admit I OWN!

    Hope this proves helpful.

    The Boxing Register, IBHOF Official Record Book: James Roberts and Alexander Skutt

    Corner Men: Ronald Fried

    In the Corner: Dave Anderson

    The Ring Record Book (1986-1987): Herb Goldman

    Boxings Greatest Fighters: Bert Sugar

    The Last Great Fight: Joe Layden

    King of the World: Dave Remnick

    The Heavyweights: Bob Mee

    Hands of Stone, The Roberto Duran Story: Christian Guidice

    Against the Odds, The Larry Holmes Story: Phil Berger

    Sound and Fury, Ali and Cossell: Dave Anderson

    Sugar Ray: Dave Anderson

    Atlas: Teddy Atlas

    Muhammad Ali: Thomas Hauser

    Boxing: Bertram Job

    Men of Steel: Peter Walsh

    Cut Time: Carlo Rotella

    A Savage Business: Richard Hoffer

    Fight of the Century: Michael Arkush

    Unforgivable Blackness: Jeffrey Ward

    Rocky Marciano: Everett Skeehan

    The Ring, Boxing in the 20th Century: Stanley Weston and Steve Farhood

    Fight Town: Tim Dahlberg

    Boxing Babylon: Nigel Collins

    The World Heavyweight Championship: John D. McCallum

    The Encyclopedia of World Boxing Champions: John D. McCallum

    100 Years of Boxing: Bert Sugar

    The Great Fights: Bert Sugar

    The Great Book of Boxing: Harry Mullan

    Best of the Ring: Stanley Weston

    New York Times Encyclopedia of Sports Volume 7 Boxing

    Beyond the Ring: Jeffrey Sammons

    In This Corner: Peter Heller

    The Book of Boxing: WC Heinz

    The Boxing Companion: Richard OíBrien

    Dark Trade: Don McCrae

    Sparring with Hemmingway: Budd Schulberg

    Punchlines: Phil Berger

    Smokin Joe: Phil Berger

    Champion: Chris Mead

    The Pictorial History of Boxing: Nat Fleischer and Nat Loubet

    The Greatest Boxing Stories Ever Told: Jeff Silverman

    The Hardest Game: Hugh McIlvanney

    When Boxing Was a Jewish Sport: Allen Bodner

    When Dempsey Fought Tunney: Bruce Evenson

    Boxing Day: Jeff Wells

    The Greatest Fight of Our Generation, Louis Schmeling II: Lewis Erenberg

    Ringside: Budd Schulberg

    Raging Bull: Jake Lamotta

    The Sweet Science: AJ Liebling

    A Neutral Corner: AJ Liebling

    Reading the Fights: Don Halpern

    Barney Ross: Douglas Century

    A-Z World of Boxing: Bert Blewett

    Only the Ring was Square: Teddy Brenner

    Only In America, The Life and Crimes of Don King: Jack Newfield

    Shadow Box: George Plimpton

    Sugar Ray Leonard And Other Noble Warriors: Sam Topperoff

    The Sporting Life: Irving Rudd

    The Heavyweight Champions: John Durant

    Bert Sugar On Boxing: Bert Sugar

    The Old Mongoose: Marilyn Douroux

    Writers Fighters: John Schulian

    Muhammad Ali Memories: Thomas Hauser

    Earnie Shavers Welcome to the Big Time: Marshall Terrill and Mike Fitzgerald

    Going the Distance, Ken Norton Story: Marshall Terrill and Mike Fitzgerald

    Muhammad Ali The Peoples Champ: Gerald Early

    By George: George Foreman and Joel Engel

    Bummy Davis vs. Murder Inc: Ron Ross

    Inside Boxing: Robert Seltzer

    Ghosts of Manilla: Mark Kram

    Italian Stallions: Thomas Hauser

    The Encyclopedia of Boxing: Gilbert Odd

    Serenity: Ralph Wiley

    The Muhammad Ali Reader: Gerald Early

    The Fights: Charles Hoff

    Dick Tiger: Ade Makinde

    Joe Louis: Richard Bak

    The Fight: Norman Mailer

    The Heavyweights: Henry Cooper

    My Turf: William Nack

    I Only Talk Winning: Angelo Dundee

    505 Boxing QuestionsYour Friends Canít Answer: Bert Sugar

    New York Cityís Greatest Boxers: Jose Corpas

    Boxing Legends of All Time: Robert Cassidy

    Black Lights: Thomas Hauser

    Bostonís Boxing Heritage: Kevin Smith

    Kings of the Ring: Gavin Evans

    Lightning Strikes: Gerald Suster

    A Flame of Pure Fire: Roger Kahn

    A Fistful of Sugar: Alan Goldstein

    Sting Like a Bee: Jose Torres and Bert Sugar

    The Ageless Warrior: Mike Fitzgerald

    The Loser and Still Champion: Budd Shulberg

    The Greatest, Muhammad Ali: Richard Durham

    Bad Intentions: Peter Heller

    Fire and Fear: Jose Torres

    Blood Season: Phil Berger

    Ringside Seat at the Circus: Larry Merchant

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    Books I am Looking forward to:

    Sam Langford: Boxing's Greatest Uncrowned Champion by Clay Moyle

    Due out in October:

    Four Kings: Leonard, Hagler, Hearns, Duran and the Last Great Era of Boxing by George Kimball

    Due out in September:

    ARC OF BOXING: The Rise and Decline of the Sweet Science by Mike Silver

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    Re: 100 Boxing Books, I own, that I recommend:

    Good choices but I'd add "This Bloody Mary Is The Last Thing I Own" A Journey To The End Of Boxing by Jonathan Rendall

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    Re: 100 Boxing Books, I own, that I recommend:

    Another good one is "Million Dollar Gate" By Oscar Fraley and Jack Kearns.

    Wing master

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    One that is really disappointing that

    I went out of my way to get was:

    50 Years at Ringside: Nat Fleischer

    I really didn't learn anything from that book whihc surprised me quite a bit.

    Nat has a habit of trying to fill up a page with a list of as many names as he can come up with.

    Bummed me out. Especially as I dropped $40.00 on it.

    Hawk

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    Re: 100 Boxing Books, I own, that I recommend:

    Fleischer was always full of crap. He was bought & paid for first by Tex Rickard then Mike Jacobs & whoever was the top promoters up to his death.

    While Fleischer did do a lot for boxing with Ring Magazine - which may be "The Bible Of Boxing", but ol' Nat was no Martin Luther Fleischer.

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    Re: 100 Boxing Books, I own, that I recommend:

    I'm not sure if it's a must own, but I thought the provocatively titled Bad Nigger! The National Impact of Jack Johnson by Al-Tony Gilmore was pretty good.

    Hawk,

    Believe it or not, I've been meaning to read When Boxing was a Jewish Sport since it first came out years ago, but still haven't gotten to it yet. What did you think? Was it as unreadable as some make it out to be? If so, did you still find it enjoyable?

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    Re: 100 Boxing Books, I own, that I recommend:

    · Lightning Strikes: Gerald Suster
    Very poorly researched, or, rather, not really researched at all, a compilation of secondary sources. I could only laugh when I saw its 'biographical notes'. The attempt to rank lightweights using three different methods was ridiculous as well. Wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

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    Lightning Strikes

    Indeed ranks towards the bottom of the list of 100 here.

    But it does act as a nice compilation of information on the lightweight division even if indeed as Senya points out, 90% of it is secondary sources.

    It's a quick thumb of Info on the 135 pound division.

    No, it doesn't break new ground but if your library doesn't cover the Lightweight division, it can be useful.

    BUT, it ain't the Boxing Register, that's for sure.

    Compared to another Suster Book I own, Champions of the Ring, Lightning Strikes boarders on Brilliance.

    Not the best endorsement, I understand.

    Ganch,

    I enjoyed Bodner's book (When Boxing was a Jewish Sport), primarily becuase I had a noticable weakness in my historical knowledge of that particular area. I thought it was a very good book that I find myself referencing quite a bit.

    My Hard cover edition was listed at $24.95. I beleive I paid about $12 or $13 for it. But I felt it was good enough that I would have paid the full price if had to.

    Gor,

    I bought Nat's book for some specific information that was referenced in a magazine article. I could have saved myself the money as what was stated in the magazine article covered what i ended up finding in the book.

    Fliescher's inconsistancy is what I find most annoying about his writing. Again, thanks Nat for Creating the Ring. But I'm also happy you enlisted other writers!

    Hawk
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    Re: 100 Boxing Books, I own, that I recommend:

    Quote Originally Posted by hawk5ins
    The Ring, Boxing in the 20th Century: Stanley Weston and Steve Farhood
    I would love to see an updated version of this book! With the new boxing research that has been done since then, and with the different wire articles along with the Ring recaps, this could be a newer version of world title fights and the stories behind the fights which were just wonderful. If ODLH has anyone watching this board, please commission this book!!

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    Re: 100 Boxing Books, I own, that I recommend:

    Best Boxing Book EVER by an order of magnitude:

    The Fireside book of Boxing, edited by Hall-of-Famer WC Heinz -- everything from Homer to damon Runyon to Hemingway to Jack London.

    An absolute cornerstone of any library.



    Another book which is #1 in terms of training techniques -- and i would be shocked if Mike Silver doesn't agree -- haislett's Boxing, published in 1940 and cribbed by no other than Bruce Lee for his Jeet Kun Do hand techniques. If you want to understand the technique of boxing, read this book!

    My guilty pleasure: Shadow Box by George Plimpton

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    Re: 100 Boxing Books, I own, that I recommend:

    Speaking of boxing techniques, another book worthy of mentioning is Jack Dempsey's Championship Fighting.

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    You had me scared there for a Moment Mike

    The Fireside Book of Boxing you mentioned had me wondering if either I didn't include it or if I had the title wrong.

    ∑ The Book of Boxing: WC Heinz

    It does look like the title has been updated in the version I got of this in 2000, which is a reprinting with added stories, from the original 1961 release.

    Hawk

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    Re: 100 Boxing Books, I own, that I recommend:

    What's the best sugar ray robinson bio?

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    I'd go with

    Dave Anderson's Sugar Ray.

    Pound for Pound by Herb Boyd is a virtual Rip off of Anderson's book.

    I don't own "Being Sugar Ray" by Shropshire, whihc has been pretty much panned in any review I've come accross.

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    Re: 100 Boxing Books, I own, that I recommend:

    Dave Anderson & Rays 'Sugar Ray' was just an excellent read, i loved it.

    How about Randy Roberts 'Papa Jack'? I thought it was soo much easier reading than the horrible Unforgivable Blackness (recently i've been getting on the tube every night and see a fella trying to read it- always has a creased brow and a perplexed look on hios face, as his eyes veer from side to side trying to take in all the asterixes and additional notes)

    I also have Randy Roberts 'Jack Dempsey' in my pile, awaiting digestion.

    Great calls on Punch Lines and Boxing Babylon too. Anything by Berger is cant miss.

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    Man

    Unforgivable Blackness gets such polarized responses.

    I still think it was a very good read even though parts did draw out a bit more than they needed to.

    I echo the comment on Phil Berger.

    He's truly missed.

    Hawk

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    Re: 100 Boxing Books, I own, that I recommend:

    Heller's In This Corner is unsurpassed and probably unsurpassable. Nothing for me can beat personal testimonies from the likes of Gunboat Smith and Johnny Wilson. It would be great if Heller could post on the Web some of the interviews that didn't make the book, such as Gorrilla Jones.

    Larry Gains's The Impossible Dream is a great autobiography, well-written, thoughful and evocative.

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    Petey

    Heller's book is one of those that I put back on the book shelf, but within hours of putting it back, it get's pulled out and ends up sitting in a pile on the corner of my desk along with The Boxing Register, Sugar's 100 Greatest Fighters, Anderson's In This Corner, Fried's Cornerman, Walsh's Men Of Steel and Weston and Farhood's Ring Boxing in the 20th Century.

    I'm Constantly referencing those books.

    Hawk

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    Re: 100 Boxing Books, I own, that I recommend:

    I really enjoyed Graeme Kent's 'The Great White Hopes: The Quest to Defeat Jack Johnson'

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    Good Stuff Paulie?

    I'll add it to the wish list.

    Thanks.

    Oviously this a selfish byproduct of this thread. I'm looking for recommedations from others on books I don't have listed.

    Much appreciated.

    Hawk

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    Re: 100 Boxing Books, I own, that I recommend:

    Lords of the Ring (by Peter Corris, 1980) was nice, with some good research of Australian boxing history.

    "The Big Punchers" by Reg Gutteridge was nice to read.

    "Billy Conn - The Pittsburgh Kid" by Kennedy seemed well researched.

    Morton Lewis had many interesting stories about his dad (Ted Kid Lewis).

    Wignall's "The Story of Boxing" had some interesting views on 1910-1920 fighters, but is quite rare (printed in 1923).
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    About his DEAD?

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    Re: 100 Boxing Books, I own, that I recommend:

    I got through most of "A Man Must Fight" by Gene "It's not about me" Tunney. Took it out from the library but could not finish it because it was used by a roommate along with an AIC poster I had to mop up vomit while I was 'away' in one of my shacking with sluts episodes. Well written to say the least but it was like a CSN song...I felt like I was being lectured to.

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    Re: 100 Boxing Books, I own, that I recommend:

    Charley Burley by Harry Otty.

    Jock McAvoy by Brian Hughes.

    Fighting Was My Business by Jimmy Wilde.

    The Fightung Irish by Roger Anderson.

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    Kojo

    I keep getting The Burley Books mixed up.

    Otty's book you recommended, but for some reason I keep confusing that with Allen Rosenfeld's book on Burley, whihc I have heard some rough critiques on.

    But to be honest, I can recall which one I THINK I'm talking about. Otty's book also details Murderer's Row.

    Can you give me your thoughts and opinions on the book?

    Thanks.

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    Re: Kojo

    Quote Originally Posted by hawk5ins
    But to be honest, I can recall which one I THINK I'm talking about. Otty's book also details Murderer's Row.
    Yes, Ottys book also goes into detail about Murderers Row. It is clear in the book that Otty is a huge fan of Burley but only in the same way Adeyinkas admiration for Dick Tiger shines through his excellent book.

    In my opinion Ottys book is very well researched and written and gives a great insight into the man and the fighter, his opponents and the times they fought in. There are also some great bits of information on Moore, Booker, Williams, Charles, Marshall etc etc

    I highly recommend it, I am also sure that much of the information on Burleys record here on the CBZ was supplied by Harry Otty.

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    Thank You.

    Suggestion NOTED and acted upon.

    Much appreciated.

    Hawk

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    I object to this thread

    It makes me feel really stupid and ill-read.

    I always hate it when I have to face the truth. I am entitled not to have to deal with reality. Please expunge this thread and all other evidence of my intellectual inferiority. Failure to do so may result in me filing a lawsuit under the little-known AIA (Americans with Ignorance Act).

    Cheers,

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    Dan

    You have to wait in line until after my wife is AGAIN finished filing the WTHDOMGTA suit agianst me.

    The old "Where The Hell Did Our Money Go To Again"? suit that she routinely files agianst me when the Mail comes.

    Hawk

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