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    Remember

    That commecial when different kids came on and declared:

    "I'm Tiger Woods."

    I see the need for a spin off of that:

    "I Slept with Tiger Woods."

    No, Not ME.

    Hawk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillyfan
    . . .tigers image is he was sleeping with just any beautiful tramp.
    Have you looked at the photos of the Other Women? Certainly some of them are attractive--but not all . . .

    And as for him having an affair with a porn star: good grief, Charlie Brown! Tell your wife that you brought that home to her.

    Of course, there is no excuse for domestic violence, regardless who's dishing it out. But the atavistic part of me doesn't blame Elin all that much if she decided to get in some practice with the pitching wedge.

    My father-in-law told me one I rather liked: They asked Elin how many times she hit Tiger with the club. She said, "Oh, gee, I really can't remember. Just put me down for a six."

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    My favorite (though not politically correct) was,

    "What does Tiger Woods have in common with a baby seal?"

    They both know what it's like to be clubbed by Swedes.

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    "atavistic" Dan you sent me running to webster.

    I just read read this quote the other day.

    Ernest Hemingway...
    He has never been known to use a word that might send a reader to the dictionary. (William Faulkner)

    thanks for the neew word.

    KI

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    Quote Originally Posted by TKO11
    However I LOATHE political correctness when it makes it so that you cant even mention it. When Tiger won the Masters in 1997, Fuzzy got in so much trouble for what I considered a totally harmless comment. The defending champion at the Masters decides the menu at the next year's champion's dinner, and in an interview Fuzzy (who was clearly into the cocktails) said, "Just tell him not to serve fried chicken and collard greens next year."

    The fallout was tremendous. It was a veritable front page news story, that ruined Fuzzy's reputation and stole away his desire to speak to the media (a tragedy for everyone, as he was one of the best interviews on tour). But what the hell was wrong with that? That it used a steroeotype? It was a joke for God's sake.

    If Sandy Lyle had won and Fuzzy said, "Just tell him not to serve haggis and mush peas next year," would there have been a peep from the media? If Harington had won and he said, "Just tell him not to serve bacon and cabbage with bangers and mash," would there have been a single eybrow raised? Not a chance. The media hung it's hat on the story, where there was no story at all, and ruined the guy's life.

    Then to top it all off, Sports Illustrated's article on the tournament started with, "I guess you could call the 1997 Masters a Black-Thai affair," which I thought had a lot more potentially racist ramifications than anything Fuzzy tried to make a joke about.

    "You pat him on the back and say congratulations and enjoy it and tell him not to serve fried chicken next year. Got it." Zoeller then smiled, snapped his fingers, and walked away before turning and adding, "or collard greens or whatever the hell they serve."[2] K-Mart and Dunlop ceased sponsoring Zoeller after the incident."

    from wikipedia

    I remember the quote and was offended by it when it happened. The fried chicken and collarded greens didn't offend me, it was the "or whatever the hell THEY serve"
    I remember when they interviewd tiger about it and someone asked him what he was going to say to fuzzy. He said something to the effect that he was going to ask "who they" were.

    Fuzzy apologized and that was then end of it for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Gunter
    Have you looked at the photos of the Other Women? Certainly some of them are attractive--but not all . . .

    And as for him having an affair with a porn star: good grief, Charlie Brown! Tell your wife that you brought that home to her.

    ."

    so my question is, did he consider them irresistable or did he just like to sleep around?

    He should have taken a lesson from don king. Show up at their residence, open up a suitcase with 1/2 million in it and a non disclosure contract, and leave without a trace.

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    Perhaps I am not sensitive enough to this (being the blond haired blue eyed devil myself), but what problem is there with the "they" in that sentence? As I said before for Sandy Lyle, a Scotsman, if Fuzzy had said, "Just tell him not to serve haggis and mush peas next year, or whatever the hell they serve," is there an issue with that? The "they" would mean "Scotsmen", something Fuzzy isn't. In this case it was "black guys", which again, Fuzzy clearly isn't.

    If you say that it isn't okay to refer to Scotsmen as "they" either, I understand - it's just a semantical thing that I don't get. But I certainly don't get it, since it seems like more pretty meaningless politically correct posturing to me.

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    I am a fairly liberal kinda guy, but in the case of Fuzzy, I think the timing and choice of words wasn't all that ideal. He may not have meant to come across as being racist, but I could understand folks thinking that way. It was definitely stereotyping; racist? Only Fuzzy knows this.

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    "in vino veritas".... fuzzy's mistake was doing interviews "well into his cocktails".
    had he not been i think he would have realized he was on dangerous ground.

    another example was golf channel anchor kelly tighman saying of other players challenging tiger "take him in a back alley and lynch him".... tiger and kelly have been friends for years and he called it a non-issue but the golf channel went defensive and suspended her for two weeks....

    the use of the word "lynch" was obviously worse than what fuzzy said but still it was meant with no ill will toward tiger but more a back handed compliment that backfired.

    in a perfect world everybody can accept a joke..... in this one we have to be careful.

    greg

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    Quote Originally Posted by TKO11
    Perhaps I am not sensitive enough to this (being the blond haired blue eyed devil myself), but what problem is there with the "they" in that sentence? As I said before for Sandy Lyle, a Scotsman, if Fuzzy had said, "Just tell him not to serve haggis and mush peas next year, or whatever the hell they serve," is there an issue with that? The "they" would mean "Scotsmen", something Fuzzy isn't. In this case it was "black guys", which again, Fuzzy clearly isn't.

    If you say that it isn't okay to refer to Scotsmen as "they" either, I understand - it's just a semantical thing that I don't get. But I certainly don't get it, since it seems like more pretty meaningless politically correct posturing to me.
    Hi TKO11,

    Whether re: the use of "they" or, more in response to your earlier point re: "fried chicken and collard greens," I am quite sure it's because blacks (and a few other groups) have been on the deadly end of prejudice and racism--slavery, Jim Crow laws, lynching, etc. Certain groups in the US, if not elsewhere, too (in particular blacks, Jews, gays, in recent years Muslims) are quite sensitive to name-calling by others, even in jokes, because it often reveals that the jokester is indeed bigoted--and I'd say usually. The above groups are usually minorities wherever they are, and individuals have often been singled out for persecution, and often violence, from grade school on.

    I simply don't think a Scotsman, an Irishman, a German, or for that matter an Italian, a Pole, a Russian, a Swede, or a Greek (all of these with, or without, "-American" or "-Canadian" added to the end) has any concept of what it's like to be ridiculed, persecuted, or worse, worldwide, for generations if not hundreds of years, over what they were born. Someone here mentioned at one time that he is a white living among Asians; I would answer that no white living in Asia was forced into slavery (apart from WWII Japanese enslavement of POWs for a few years) nor sent to an extermination camp, nor in any way the victim of mass murder by Asians. There simply is no comparison, not in the slightest.

    JFK was concerned he wouldn't get elected due to being a Catholic. Recently, Mitt Romney thought his being a Mormon could be a problem in that regard. Again, this is just not even in the same league with the prejudice, and consequences of it, that blacks and the other groups I mentioned along with them, have suffered. I would add parenthetically that both Catholics and Mormons have long histories of persecuting other groups.

    A semi-black person like Tiger recognizes the sound of a southern bigot when he hears it, and it's not like bigotry has left us, though I'd agree in North America it has diminished substantially and crimes based on race have diminished greatly as well. Still, Fuzzy, a guy I have always liked and who I imagine wouldn't physically hurt anyone over their race, said something that Tiger, and millions, KNEW was offensive to a black person. Fuzzy knew it all too well.

    TKO, you are as knowledgeable a poster as exists on this board. And yet I feel certain that not even you, in addition to ANY WASP, has any idea what it's like to walk in the shoes of someone of certain minority groups. There's a fear that people hate you from the day you were born, simply because you are born a certain way, and that the haters will act on it--as they have for thousands of years.

    Look at the modern Holocausts (of varying degrees)... look who the targets are/were: black slaves in the US, Jews in WWII Europe, blacks in Rowanda, black Muslims by Arab Muslims in Darfour, the Jews during the Spanish Inquisition, Indians by white Americans ~300 years ago, the Armenians by the Turks 100 years ago (o.k, the Armenians are a "white" exception). It's never the Irish, Scots, Canadians, French, Poles, Spanish, English, Russians, etc. In fact, several of these groups and/or other whites are usually the perpetrators (excepting Rowanda).

    So, a joke about Tiger along racial lines by a white man, even more so a southerner, sounds like the same old story to any of us who have heard their cracks.

    On the other hand, I'd also imagine that if Zoeller and Woods were good friends and they were alone when Fuzzy made the remarks, and had Zoeller made such a joke because they both joke that way with one another, then it would have been no problem with Woods. This, however, was something different, a joke that was caught on camera at Woods's expense along racial lines.

    Some of us actually wish all the jokes about minorities, or along ethnic lines, would go away. But then the white guys who tell them would complain we are the problem, our "political correctness" is really what's wrong, and that those jokes are just too much fun to do without.

    Just a viewpoint from another side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gregbeyer
    in a perfect world everybody can accept a joke..... in this one we have to be careful.
    This statement is gold.

    Exactly the way it is, IMO.

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    also we have to be able to tell the difference between bad taste and discrimination...

    me... i am polish - irish . so obviously i have heard a few jokes about that. they invented whiskey so i would not rule the world and the wheel barrel to teach me how to walk... while i could take offense to these jokes or consdider them rude they are not keeping me from earning a living or from eating at a specific diner....

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    Quote Originally Posted by TKO11
    My favorite (though not politically correct) was,

    "What does Tiger Woods have in common with a baby seal?"

    They both know what it's like to be clubbed by Swedes.
    I just heard this one:

    "Q: How are Tiger Woods and Santa Claus different?

    A: Santa Claus stops after three hos!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by TKO11
    Perhaps I am not sensitive enough to this (being the blond haired blue eyed devil myself), but what problem is there with the "they" in that sentence? As I said before for Sandy Lyle, a Scotsman, if Fuzzy had said, "Just tell him not to serve haggis and mush peas next year, or whatever the hell they serve," is there an issue with that? The "they" would mean "Scotsmen", something Fuzzy isn't. In this case it was "black guys", which again, Fuzzy clearly isn't.

    If you say that it isn't okay to refer to Scotsmen as "they" either, I understand - it's just a semantical thing that I don't get. But I certainly don't get it, since it seems like more pretty meaningless politically correct posturing to me.

    I am the "they" in this statement, and my problem is why does Fried chicken and Collard green alway get a bad wrap.

    Everyone loves them! Eat up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Frank
    Hi TKO11,

    Whether re: the use of "they" or, more in response to your earlier point re: "fried chicken and collard greens," I am quite sure it's because blacks (and a few other groups) have been on the deadly end of prejudice and racism--slavery, Jim Crow laws, lynching, etc. Certain groups in the US, if not elsewhere, too (in particular blacks, Jews, gays, in recent years Muslims) are quite sensitive to name-calling by others, even in jokes, because it often reveals that the jokester is indeed bigoted--and I'd say usually. The above groups are usually minorities wherever they are, and individuals have often been singled out for persecution, and often violence, from grade school on.

    I simply don't think a Scotsman, an Irishman, a German, or for that matter an Italian, a Pole, a Russian, a Swede, or a Greek (all of these with, or without, "-American" or "-Canadian" added to the end) has any concept of what it's like to be ridiculed, persecuted, or worse, worldwide, for generations if not hundreds of years, over what they were born. Someone here mentioned at one time that he is a white living among Asians; I would answer that no white living in Asia was forced into slavery (apart from WWII Japanese enslavement of POWs for a few years) nor sent to an extermination camp, nor in any way the victim of mass murder by Asians. There simply is no comparison, not in the slightest.

    JFK was concerned he wouldn't get elected due to being a Catholic. Recently, Mitt Romney thought his being a Mormon could be a problem in that regard. Again, this is just not even in the same league with the prejudice, and consequences of it, that blacks and the other groups I mentioned along with them, have suffered. I would add parenthetically that both Catholics and Mormons have long histories of persecuting other groups.

    A semi-black person like Tiger recognizes the sound of a southern bigot when he hears it, and it's not like bigotry has left us, though I'd agree in North America it has diminished substantially and crimes based on race have diminished greatly as well. Still, Fuzzy, a guy I have always liked and who I imagine wouldn't physically hurt anyone over their race, said something that Tiger, and millions, KNEW was offensive to a black person. Fuzzy knew it all too well.

    TKO, you are as knowledgeable a poster as exists on this board. And yet I feel certain that not even you, in addition to ANY WASP, has any idea what it's like to walk in the shoes of someone of certain minority groups. There's a fear that people hate you from the day you were born, simply because you are born a certain way, and that the haters will act on it--as they have for thousands of years.

    Look at the modern Holocausts (of varying degrees)... look who the targets are/were: black slaves in the US, Jews in WWII Europe, blacks in Rowanda, black Muslims by Arab Muslims in Darfour, the Jews during the Spanish Inquisition, Indians by white Americans ~300 years ago, the Armenians by the Turks 100 years ago (o.k, the Armenians are a "white" exception). It's never the Irish, Scots, Canadians, French, Poles, Spanish, English, Russians, etc. In fact, several of these groups and/or other whites are usually the perpetrators (excepting Rowanda).

    So, a joke about Tiger along racial lines by a white man, even more so a southerner, sounds like the same old story to any of us who have heard their cracks.

    On the other hand, I'd also imagine that if Zoeller and Woods were good friends and they were alone when Fuzzy made the remarks, and had Zoeller made such a joke because they both joke that way with one another, then it would have been no problem with Woods. This, however, was something different, a joke that was caught on camera at Woods's expense along racial lines.

    Some of us actually wish all the jokes about minorities, or along ethnic lines, would go away. But then the white guys who tell them would complain we are the problem, our "political correctness" is really what's wrong, and that those jokes are just too much fun to do without.

    Just a viewpoint from another side.
    Don't want to split hairs with a statement I basically agree with, but I would be careful around Poles and especially Russians, who between Hitler and Stalin endured some very mind-blowing oppression of their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DscribeDC
    Don't want to split hairs with a statement I basically agree with, but I would be careful around Poles and especially Russians, who between Hitler and Stalin endured some very mind-blowing oppression of their own.
    Hello my friend DscribeDC,

    You are right; many Poles were massacred by Russians, esp. during WWII and later, as well as by Hitler in horribly large numbers. And so many Russians by the Nazis (and vice versa).

    I was going to point out now that many Poles collaborated with the Nazis in the persecution and murder of Jews and others, but it's better and much more to your profound point to instead highlight how sticky these discussions are--and I had thought I made sure that what I wrote in that long post was accurate and inoffensive!

    Your post illuminates how ALL these matters of ethnic comments and sensitivities are a serious matter, better not to indulge in! It's sort of ironic that this discussion is contained within a thread called "Tiger Woods is a douche."

    Touchť!

    Or maybe, Douchť!

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    Why does Tiger Woods' wife leave the house at 2:30am?

    To go clubbing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TKO11
    Perhaps I am not sensitive enough to this (being the blond haired blue eyed devil myself), but what problem is there with the "they" in that sentence? As I said before for Sandy Lyle, a Scotsman, if Fuzzy had said, "Just tell him not to serve haggis and mush peas next year, or whatever the hell they serve," is there an issue with that? The "they" would mean "Scotsmen", something Fuzzy isn't. In this case it was "black guys", which again, Fuzzy clearly isn't.

    If you say that it isn't okay to refer to Scotsmen as "they" either, I understand - it's just a semantical thing that I don't get. But I certainly don't get it, since it seems like more pretty meaningless politically correct posturing to me.

    I found this quote by tiger on the internet

    MEDIA STATEMENT:
    The purpose of this statement is to explain my heritage for the benefit of members of the media who may be seeing me play for the first time. It is the final and only comment I will make regarding the issue.
    My parents have taught me to always be proud of my ethnic background. Please rest assured that is, and always will be, the case - past, present, and future.

    The media has portrayed me as African-America; sometimes, Asian. In fact, I am both.

    Yes, I am the product of two great cultures, one African-American and the other Asian.

    On my father's side, I am African-American. On my mother's side, I am Thai. Truthfully, I feel very fortunate, and EQUALLY PROUD, to be both African-American and Asian!

    The critical and fundamental point is that ethnic background and/or composition should NOT make a difference. It does NOT make a difference to me. The bottom line is that I am an American...and proud of it!

    That is who I am and what I am. Now, with your cooperation, I hope I can just be a golfer and a human being.


    Signed,
    TIGER WOODS


    I always hated the word "race". Like I said before, I thought we were all part of the human race. Heritage, ethnic backround , or ancestry would be a better question than "what race are you?"
    I know its just semantics.
    When fuzzy said "or whatever they serve" , I know its just a small detail, but it did come across as racist, I'm white and he's black. We are so different, I don't know what they eat.It was a slip, unintentional, he apologized, and that was the end of it for me.
    My backround is German, I was teased as a kid, hey kraut, hey hitler, hey nazi. Kids always go for the jugular with insults.To say germans drink a lot of beer and eat sauerkraut so what? We do, except i don't like sauerkraut. To call a german a nazi is equivalent to using the n word.
    The funny thing is when i am called a nazi, I know I'm not, so the insult doesn't offend me, just makes the insulter look stupid.

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    I think america is the only country that can immediatly come up with a dozen jokes about any situation. Gallows humor.
    "to go clubbing" thats classic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillyfan
    I think america is the only country that can immediatly come up with a dozen jokes about any situation. Gallows humor.
    "to go clubbing" thats classic
    Mate - You inherited that trait from your English forefathers. The poms are the kings of gallows humour, to Aussies its almost part of the national sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doomeddisciple
    Mate - You inherited that trait from your English forefathers. The poms are the kings of gallows humour, to Aussies its almost part of the national sport.
    You beat me to it. I posted a similar message yesterday and then deleted it in case maybe someone took offence. You gotta' love the English for their sense of humour

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    Re: Tiger Woods is a douche.

    My apologies, I stand corrected

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    Nike is standing by Tiger.

    Nike Secretly Pays for Plastic Surgery to Fix Tiger's Lips after Accident

    ...Although there still remains speculation as to how Tiger Woods' lips were injured, the New Jersey Tribune is reporting that his wife did in fact hit him with a golf club during a domestic dispute reportedly involving another woman. Previously, media reports speculated that Woods may have been injured by the steering wheel or windshield of his Escalade.

    Shockingly, rather than drop Woods from their advertising group, NIKE has once again shown complete support for their prize athlete by paying for reconstructive lip surgery....

    http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...51C566BE12.jpg

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    All in fun Philly mate!

    Speaking of the gallows-esque humour, I heard a ripper the other day:

    What do Tiger Woods and baby seals have in common?

    They both know what its like to be clubbed by Swedes.

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    Canadians have the monopoly on clubbing seals. And I'm damn proud of it. I say cull the fish eating sea rats.

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    lost track of this thread ...... anyway....

    the tiger apology was excruciating. what a fall from grace. i was trying to remember the swaggering golf champion as he stood at the podium (gallows) looking shell shocked .... at the end for a brief moment i thought his own mother had turned away from him when he went to hug her....

    with the venues of the majors favoring tigers game this year it is hard to see him not coming out. if he does not it is a sure sign that he is too shook up to compete and if that is the case well ...... jacks record could remain.

    what do you think ?

    greg

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    I think that Wood's womanizing getting in the way of his athletic pursuits is a sure sign of the times when we consider the amount of womanizing guys like Ali and Joe Louis did in their day, in Ali's case openly flaunting it to the media who kept their mouth's shut and notebooks closed.

    This is truly the media age and times have changed. Tiger's no worse than the guys we adore on this site. It's a different climate that's all.

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    Thank goodness he apparently took his medicine for his sex addiction. Addictive behavior is almost impossible to prevent or stop save for medication or strenuous therapies, thus the term addiciton. I mean, it's not like he just had several partners willingly like most persons who sleep around.

    I base his being on his meds on the fact his addiction didnt compel him to have sex with anyone on his way to the facility and on his way to the podium (as far as I know).

    Thank goodness. How awkward would that have been? "This conference is cancelled.. Mr. Woods has relapsed with the woman in the third row fifth seat from the left."

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    Big fan

    Of Tommy Lasorda with the "weakness vs sickness" theory.

    BTW, I was very sick throughout my college years and up until about age 27.

    Sick as a Dawg.

    THere were no meds back in the 80's and 90's either.

    "So if you please, get on your Knees.

    THere are no Bills, there are no Fees.............

    They Call me....Doctor Love!

    Calling Dr. Love

    I am Your Dr. Of Love.

    Calling Dr. Love.

    I've got the cure you're thinking of

    Calling Dr. Loooooooo-ove.

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    This thread has devolved into utter, juvenile, idiocy. Grow up, guys ...

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