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"Philadelphia" Pal Moore
(Paul Walter Von Franzke)

BORN   October 1891; in Germany
DIED December 20 1942; Philadelphia, Pennsylvania (Some sources report December 20 1943)
HEIGHT 5-6 (Some sources report 5-4)
WEIGHT 115-140 lbs

Moore was one of five brothers fighting out of Philadelphia, others being - Willie, Reddy, Frankie and Al; He was not yet sixteen years of age when he began fighting in 1907; Right away, he fought many contests each year and was an experienced fighter even as a teen; Not a power hitter, he was a talented, scrappy boxer who tangled with the best

Fighting in during a period in which "No Decision" bouts were the norm, newspaper reports indicate that he "bested" many top men and future champions such as - Jem Driscoll, Oscar "Battling" Nelson, Johnny Dundee, Jimmy Walsh, Young Dyson, Eddie Smith, Julius "Yankee" Schwartz, Joe "Kid" Coster, Knockout Brown, Al Delmont, Tommy O'Toole, Matty Baldwin, Robert "Bert" Keyes, "Young" Sammy Smith, Jack Redmond, "Fighting" Dick Hyland and "Young" Abe Brown

Moore was inducted into the Pennsylvania Boxing Hall of Fame in 1973

PHILADELPHIA PAL MOORE
(The "Other" Pal)
By Jim Amato


Although Memphis Pal Moore was once a title claimant and the possessor of a fine record, he should not be confused with Pal Moore out of Philadelphia. In fact, the Pal from the City of Brotherly Love may have been the overall better fighter.

Philadelphia Pal Moore was a member of the famous "Fighting Moore Family" which included brothers Willie, Reddy, and Frank. He was born Paul Von Franzki, October 1891, in Germany. He began his professional career in 1907 in Philadelphia. By 1909 he had invaded New York and began to draw attention. By 1910, he had hit the big time. On February 1st of that year he stopped Henry Miers in Boston prompting ex-heavy weight champion James J. Corbett who was in attendance to heap praise on Pal. On May 25th Pal scored an upset six round newspaper verdict over the heralded Jim Driscoll. In his last five bouts for 1910 he twice met Owen Moran losing a newspaper decision and then holding Moran to a draw. He then lost newspaper verdicts to Abe Attell, Harlem Tommy Murphy, and Tommy Langdon.

Pal remained at the top of his game in 1911 battling some of the best fighters in the world. Win, lose, or draw Moore always gave a good account of himself. In April the paper had him a loser against Freddie Welsh in New York. He twice met Harlem Tommy Murphy in rematches dropping a newspaper decision and then holding Tommy to a draw. He won a clear-cut decision over Battling Nelson on October 17th in Boston. He gave Nelson quite a going over in that one.

In 1912 Pal drew with Owen Moran and then lost a twenty round decision to Jack Britton. He was a newspaper winner over Johnny Dundee but ended the year losing to Charley White and Joe Shugrue. In 1913, he again lost to White and had a no contest bout with Britton. In 1914 he again met Dundee. He also had two battles with Young Abe Brown. On September 7th he met the great Benny Leonard and lost a newspaper decision after ten torrid rounds. In 1915 according to newspaper accounts Pal lost all five of his fights. Among his losses was a ten rounder to Shugrue.

By 1916 Palís career was slowing down and in 1917 he suffered two major setbacks losing by knockout to Paul Doyle and on May 14th a two round stoppage at the hands of George "KO" Chaney. He finished 1917 with three fights after the Chaney debacle. There are no fights on record for Pal in 1918. In 1919 he fought once against Al Thompson. Pal had his last recorded fight on March 20, 1920 winning a newspaper decision over ten rounds against Johnny Heeman in Shamokin, Pennsylvania. Pal passed away on December 20, 1942 in Philadelphia.

Some other notable boxers that Pal met during his distinguished career were Knockout Brown, Jimmy Walsh, Tommy Maloney, Dick Hyland, Matty Baldwin, Johnny Griffith, Patsy Cline, and Frankie Callahan.

Although Pal was probably the most famous of the "Fighting Moorer Brothers," Reddy, Frankie, and Willie carved out respectable careers. Also, brothers Al and Harry boxed and oldest brother Charley was a bare-knuckle saloon brawler. A special thank-you to Joe Cassidy of Cleveland who is Willieís grandson for providing me with much of the information.

1907
Jul 11 Tommy Peterson             Philadelphia, Pa                  KO  3
Aug 27 Tommy Peterson             Philadelphia, Pa                ND-W  4

1908
Jan 14 Willie Kessler             Philadelphia, Pa                ND-W  3
Jan 16 Frankie White              Philadelphia, Pa                ND-L  3
Jan 24 Louisiana                  Philadelphia, Pa                ND-D  6
Jan 28 Louisiana                  Philadelphia, Pa                ND-D  4
Mar 17 Louisiana                  Philadelphia, Pa                  TK  3
May 27 Happy Davis                Philadelphia, Pa                ND-W  6
Jun 23 Happy Davis                Philadelphia, Pa                ND-D  3
Aug  4 Happy Davis                Philadelphia, Pa                ND-W  6
Sep  1 Eddie O'Keefe              Philadelphia, Pa                ND-W  6
Sep  4 Tommy Reilly               Philadelphia, Pa                ND-D  6
Sep  5 Joe Ferguson               Philadelphia, Pa                  TK  2
Sep  7 "Young" Owen Moran         Philadelphia, Pa                  KO  5
Sep 29 Happy Davis                Philadelphia, Pa                ND-W  6
Oct  6 Eddie Doyle                Philadelphia, Pa                ND-D  6
Oct 20 Young Bijou                Philadelphia, Pa                  KO  1
Nov  2 Eddie Murray               Philadelphia, Pa                  KO  3
Nov 17 Young Cassidy              Philadelphia, Pa                  KO  2
Nov 23 Nick McGlinchy             Philadelphia, Pa                  KO  3
Dec  1 Johnny Loeber              Philadelphia, Pa                ND-W  6
Dec  5 Frankie Bartch             Philadelphia, Pa                ND-W  6
Dec 12 Johnny Smith               Philadelphia, Pa                  TK  4
Dec 19 Johnny Coffey              Philadelphia, Pa                  KO  3

1909
Jan 14 Johnny Loeber              Lancaster, Pa                   ND-D  6
Jan 16 Tommy Houck                Philadelphia, Pa                ND-D  6
Jan 19 Jerry Sullivan             Philadelphia, Pa                ND-W  6
Jan 25 Jerry Sullivan             Philadelphia, Pa                ND-W  6
Feb 13 Jerry Sullivan             Philadelphia, Pa                ND-W  6
Feb 15 Frankie Bartch             Sunbury, Pa                     ND-D  6
Feb 23 Kid Butts                  New York, NY                    ND-W 10
Mar 18 Willie Houck               Lancaster, Pa                   ND-W  6
Apr  6 Terry Brooks               New York, NY                    ND-W 10
May 22 Johnny Mayo                Philadelphia, Pa                ND-W  6
Jun 16 Tommy West                 Philadelphia, Pa                ND-W  6
Jun 30 Johnny Glover              New York, NY                    ND-W 10
Jul  7 Johnny Moran               New York, NY                    ND-W 10
Jul 20 Patsy Brannigan            New York, NY                    ND-L 10
Aug 25 Patsy Brannigan            New York, NY                    ND-W 10
Aug 28 Julius "Yankee" Schwartz   New York, NY                    ND-W 10
Dec  6 Knockout Brown             New York, NY                    ND-W 10
Dec 13 Eddie Carr                 Boston, Ma                         D 10
Dec 20 Knockout Brown             New York, NY                    ND-W 10

1910
Jan  1 Joe "Kid" Coster           New York, NY                    ND-W 10
Jan  4 Henry Miers                Boston, Ma                         D 10
Jan 17 Harry Thomas               New York, NY                    ND-W 10
Feb  1 Henry Miers                Boston, Ma                        TK  8
Feb  8 Mike Malone                Philadelphia, Pa                ND-W  6
Feb 11 Al Delmont                 New York, NY                    ND-W 10
Feb 26 Tommy O'Toole              Philadelphia, Pa                ND-W  6
Mar  1 Al Delmont                 Boston, Ma                         W 10
Apr  4 Willie Jones               New York, NY                    ND-W 10
Apr 21 Jimmy Walsh                New York, NY                    ND-W 10
May  7 Teddy Maloney              Philadelphia, Pa                ND-W  6
May 25 Jem Driscoll               Philadelphia, Pa                ND-W  6
May 31 Jimmy Walsh                Boston, Ma                         L 12
Jun 24 Young Snowball             New York, NY                      KO  3
Sep 28 Owen Moran                 Philadelphia, Pa                ND-L  6
Oct  4 Owen Moran                 Boston, Ma                         D 12
Nov 30 Abe Attell                 Bronx, NY                       ND-L 10
Dec 15 "Harlem" Tommy Murphy      New York, NY                    ND-L 10
Dec 21 Tommy Langdon              Philadelphia, Pa                ND-L  6

1911
Jan 17 Matty Baldwin              Boston, Ma                         W 12
Feb 17 Bert Keyes                 New York, NY                    ND-W 10
Mar  1 Tommy Maloney              New York, NY                    ND-W 10
Mar 10 "Young" Sammy Smith        New York, NY                    ND-W 10
Apr 12 Freddie Welsh              New York, NY                    ND-L 10
May  2 Jack Redmond               Boston, Ma                         W 12
Jun 13 Matt Wells                 Boston, Ma                         L 12
Sep  7 "Harlem" Tommy Murphy      New York, NY                    ND-D 10
Sep 12 "Harlem" Tommy Murphy      Boston, Ma                         D 12
Oct  9 "Fighting" Dick Hyland     New York, NY                    ND-W 10
Oct 17 Battling Nelson            Boston, Ma                         W 12
Oct 21 Grover Hayes               Philadelphia, Pa                ND-L  6
Nov  4 Frank Madole               Philadelphia, Pa                ND-D  6
Dec  4 Jack Dorman                New York, NY                    ND-W 10
Dec  5 Willie Howard              Brooklyn, NY                    ND-W 10
Dec 25 Charley Turner             Philadelphia, Pa                ND-L  6

1912
Jan  1 Billy Allen                Rochester, NY                   ND-W 10
Jan 11 Matty Baldwin              New York, NY                    ND-L 10
Feb 20 Joe Mandot                 New Orleans, La                 ND-L 10
Mar 12 Owen Moran                 Bronx, NY                       ND-D 10
Apr 30 Jack Britton               San Francisco, Ca                  L 20
Jul 22 Eddie Smith                New York, NY                    ND-W 10
Jul 29 Phil Brock                 Cleveland, Oh                   ND-L 12
Sep 23 Joe Sherman                Memphis, Tn                        L  8
Oct 11 Johnny Dundee              New York, NY                    ND-W 10
Nov 18 Young Dyson                New Haven, Ct                      W 15
Nov 21 Charley White              Kenosha, Wi                     ND-L 10
Nov 28 Joe Shugrue                Waterbury, Ct                      L 15

1913
Jan 25 Joe "Kid" Coster           New York, NY                    ND-L 10
Mar 10 Charley White              Kenosha, Wi                     ND-L 10
Apr  5 Willie Jones               Brooklyn, NY                    ND-L 10
Apr 21 Jack Britton               Philadelphia, Pa                  NC  4
May  6 Mike McGowan               Elmira, NY                        TK  6
May 12 Johnny Griffiths           Akron, Oh                          L 12
Sep 18 Frankie Russell            New Orleans, La                 ND-L 10

1914
Feb 26 Johnny Dundee              New York, NY                    ND-L 10
Mar 23 "Young" Abe Brown          Rochester, NY                   ND-W 10
Apr 13 Patsy Drouillard           Rochester, NY                   ND-W 10
Apr 18 Patsy Kline                Philadelphia, Pa                ND-D  6
Aug 14 "Young" Abe Brown          Rockaway Beach, NY              ND-D 10
Sep  7 Benny Leonard              Bronx, NY                       ND-L 10
Nov 26 Manuel Vierra              Philadelphia, Pa                  TK  3
Dec  5 Fred Seidel                Philadelphia, Pa                ND-D  6
Dec 25 Eddie Morgan               Philadelphia, Pa                ND-L  6

1915
Jan  9 Johnny Lustig              Philadelphia, Pa                ND-L  6
Jan 18 Willie "Young" Gradwell    Philadelphia, Pa                ND-L  6
Feb 15 Joe Shugrue                Rochester, NY                   ND-L 10
May 21 Jimmy Murphy               Philadelphia, Pa                ND-L  6
Dec 11 "Irish" Patsy Cline        Philadelphia, Pa                ND-L  6

1916
Jan  1 Frankie Conifrey           Philadelphia, Pa                ND-D  6
Mar  6 Allie Nack                 New York, NY                    ND-W 10
Apr  3 Willie Jones               New York, NY                    ND-W 10
May  5 Joe Welsh                  Philadelphia, Pa                ND-L  6
Jun 13 Mickey Gallagher           Philadelphia, Pa                  TK  5
Jun 27 Johnny Mealey              Philadelphia, Pa                ND-W  6
Sep 19 Charley Thomas             Philadelphia, Pa                ND-D  6
Nov 11 Charley Metrie             Philadelphia, Pa                ND-W  6
Dec  9 Harry Condon               Philadelphia, Pa                ND-D  6

1917
Jan 12 Milburn "Young" Saylor     Philadelphia, Pa                ND-L  6
Jan 13 George Volk                Philadelphia, Pa                ND-W  6
Apr 14 Harry Boyle                Philadelphia, Pa                ND-W  6
Apr 21 Frankie Callahan           Brooklyn, NY                    ND-L 10
Apr 28 Paul Doyle                 Philadelphia, Pa                  LK  4
May 14 George "K.O." Chaney       Baltimore, Md                     LK  2
Aug 20 Darby Casper               Philadelphia, Pa                ND-W  6
Sep 14 Johnny Harvey              New York, NY                    ND-D 10
Sep 24 Chick Simler               New York, NY                    ND-W 10
Oct  2 Johnny Harvey              New York, NY                    ND-L 10
Nov  6 Johnny Dundee              New York, NY                    ND-L 10

1919
Feb  1 "Battling" Harry Leonard   Philadelphia, Pa                ND-L  6
May  1 Al Thompson                Atlantic City, NJ               ND-L  6

1920
Mar 20 Johnny Herman              Shamokin, Pa                    ND-W 10


*** Record Provided By Luckett Davis and Paul Zabala***

*** Much Data Provided By Joe Cassidy ***


Record courtesy of Tracy Callis, Historian, International Boxing Research Organization

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